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Dallas Rangemaster vs. Keely Java Boost - Renli - 6-:16 -0-09-20

Ok so I've noticed that all of my favourite guitarists used Dallas
Rangemaster Treble Boosters. Clapton used one on beano, Iommi used one
on all of his albums with ozzy, jimmy page used one, and so on...
interesting!

I thought it was just an overdrive pedal type and I'm still waiting
for my Okko Diablo Plus, so I am a little leary of buying another
pedal until I get my Okko. But nevertheless I was looking at some
other pedals and the other one which seems to be about on par (based
on reviews) is the Keely Java Boost. Ok so I fired up some youtube
videos and the Keely Java Boost sounds like crap. No offense, but for
example in the proguitarshop review the left-switched version sounds
absolutely nothing like a sabbath tone - what is that guy smoking? And
in the center position it sounds nothing like a rangemaster. Ok fine,
but as a treble booster, I expected it to sound /something/ like those
classic/vintage tones and it doesn't. Yet all the youtube videos I see
of the rangemaster NAIL the tone I am hearing. They nail it - not
exactly but the spirit is there. The spirit is simply not there with a
Keely Java Boost.

So I am wondering - in all your knowledge - can anyone point out some
major label releases which have used the keely java boost? I'm
interested in what it's supposed to sound like - you know, does anyone
out there know any song which has been released in which a keely java
boost was used? As a close second, does anyone know a good sounding
youtube review/demo of the keely java boost? I'm interested in this
pedal but at this point it seems obvious I could only live with a
dallas rangemaster. BTW, I can't find any on ebay. S***!!!

Thanks for the help guys.

-

Re: Dallas Rangemaster vs. Keely Java Boost - ed s - 6-:16 -0-09-20

On Jun 16, 8:07=A0am, Renli <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok so I've noticed that all of my favourite guitarists used Dallas
> Rangemaster Treble Boosters. Clapton used one on beano, Iommi used one
> on all of his albums with ozzy, jimmy page used one, and so on...
> interesting!
>
> I thought it was just an overdrive pedal type and I'm still waiting
> for my Okko Diablo Plus, so I am a little leary of buying another
> pedal until I get my Okko. But nevertheless I was looking at some
> other pedals and the other one which seems to be about on par (based
> on reviews) is the Keely Java Boost. Ok so I fired up some youtube
> videos and the Keely Java Boost sounds like crap. No offense, but for
> example in the proguitarshop review the left-switched version sounds
> absolutely nothing like a sabbath tone - what is that guy smoking? And
> in the center position it sounds nothing like a rangemaster. Ok fine,
> but as a treble booster, I expected it to sound /something/ like those
> classic/vintage tones and it doesn't. Yet all the youtube videos I see
> of the rangemaster NAIL the tone I am hearing. They nail it - not
> exactly but the spirit is there. The spirit is simply not there with a
> Keely Java Boost.
>
> So I am wondering - in all your knowledge - can anyone point out some
> major label releases which have used the keely java boost? I'm
> interested in what it's supposed to sound like - you know, does anyone
> out there know any song which has been released in which a keely java
> boost was used? As a close second, does anyone know a good sounding
> youtube review/demo of the keely java boost? I'm interested in this
> pedal but at this point it seems obvious I could only live with a
> dallas rangemaster. BTW, I can't find any on ebay. S***!!!
>
> Thanks for the help guys.
>
> -

There is sOOOOOO much to getting a particular tone - its impossible to
pin it to a single element (A pedal!). Guitars/AMPs/Cabinets/other
effects/Mics/Board effects/Fingers/Picks/Strings/ where to put the
knobs - the list goes on and on . You need to just buy it and make it
work with what you have - or decide it doesn't do what you need and
take it back. Liberal return policys are the best thing out there. ed
s.

Re: Dallas Rangemaster vs. Keely Java Boost - Appledog - 6-:16 -0-09-20

On Jun 16, 9:20=A0pm, ed s <esham...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 16, 8:07=A0am, Renli <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Ok so I've noticed that all of my favourite guitarists used Dallas
> > Rangemaster Treble Boosters. Clapton used one on beano, Iommi used one
> > on all of his albums with ozzy, jimmy page used one, and so on...
> > interesting!
>
> > I thought it was just an overdrive pedal type and I'm still waiting
> > for my Okko Diablo Plus, so I am a little leary of buying another
> > pedal until I get my Okko. But nevertheless I was looking at some
> > other pedals and the other one which seems to be about on par (based
> > on reviews) is the Keely Java Boost. Ok so I fired up some youtube
> > videos and the Keely Java Boost sounds like crap. No offense, but for
> > example in the proguitarshop review the left-switched version sounds
> > absolutely nothing like a sabbath tone - what is that guy smoking? And
> > in the center position it sounds nothing like a rangemaster. Ok fine,
> > but as a treble booster, I expected it to sound /something/ like those
> > classic/vintage tones and it doesn't. Yet all the youtube videos I see
> > of the rangemaster NAIL the tone I am hearing. They nail it - not
> > exactly but the spirit is there. The spirit is simply not there with a
> > Keely Java Boost.
>
> > So I am wondering - in all your knowledge - can anyone point out some
> > major label releases which have used the keely java boost? I'm
> > interested in what it's supposed to sound like - you know, does anyone
> > out there know any song which has been released in which a keely java
> > boost was used? As a close second, does anyone know a good sounding
> > youtube review/demo of the keely java boost? I'm interested in this
> > pedal but at this point it seems obvious I could only live with a
> > dallas rangemaster. BTW, I can't find any on ebay. S***!!!
>
> > Thanks for the help guys.
>
> > -
>
> There is sOOOOOO much to getting a particular tone - its impossible to
> pin it to a single element (A pedal!). =A0Guitars/AMPs/Cabinets/other
> effects/Mics/Board effects/Fingers/Picks/Strings/ where to put the
> knobs - =A0the list goes on and on . You need to just buy it and make it
> work with what you have - or decide it doesn't do what you need and
> take it back. Liberal return policys are the best thing out there. =A0ed
> s.

Oh, of course. The thing is, the keely boost has received all these
hype reviews but I just don't see it from the videos out there. I'm
just wondering if it's the quality of youtube which is affecting the
tone.. but several videos I saw were mic'd and the proguitarshop
review.. sounded especially muddy which was very suprising to me. So I
was looking to see something done in a studio. Anyways, if you know
anything which was released using a java booster, drop me a line! thx

-

Re: Dallas Rangemaster vs. Keely Java Boost - GreenDistantStar - 6-:16 -0-09-20

On Jun 16, 9:07=A0pm, Renli <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok so I've noticed that all of my favourite guitarists used Dallas
> Rangemaster Treble Boosters. Clapton used one on beano, Iommi used one
> on all of his albums with ozzy, jimmy page used one, and so on...
> interesting!
>
> I thought it was just an overdrive pedal type and I'm still waiting
> for my Okko Diablo Plus, so I am a little leary of buying another
> pedal until I get my Okko. But nevertheless I was looking at some
> other pedals and the other one which seems to be about on par (based
> on reviews) is the Keely Java Boost. Ok so I fired up some youtube
> videos and the Keely Java Boost sounds like crap. No offense, but for
> example in the proguitarshop review the left-switched version sounds
> absolutely nothing like a sabbath tone - what is that guy smoking? And
> in the center position it sounds nothing like a rangemaster. Ok fine,
> but as a treble booster, I expected it to sound /something/ like those
> classic/vintage tones and it doesn't. Yet all the youtube videos I see
> of the rangemaster NAIL the tone I am hearing. They nail it - not
> exactly but the spirit is there. The spirit is simply not there with a
> Keely Java Boost.
>
> So I am wondering - in all your knowledge - can anyone point out some
> major label releases which have used the keely java boost? I'm
> interested in what it's supposed to sound like - you know, does anyone
> out there know any song which has been released in which a keely java
> boost was used? As a close second, does anyone know a good sounding
> youtube review/demo of the keely java boost? I'm interested in this
> pedal but at this point it seems obvious I could only live with a
> dallas rangemaster. BTW, I can't find any on ebay. S***!!!
>
> Thanks for the help guys.

Hi Ollie

I want you to try and take these comments in the good spirit in which
they're intended.

What exactly do you want to achieve with your guitar playing? It does
seem to me that you obsess over buying a tone. Let me put that in
perspective.

Almost every guitarist wants what they consider to be a good tone.

The caveat that comes with making the most of a good tone, no matter
what your rig, is your facility.

We can buy exactly the same gear (or close to it) as any of our
favourite players, but 'it' is in the fingers, and perhaps in the DNA,
of those players.

If I added a Rangemaster to the rig I'm playing now, I'm sure I'd get
a really close match to the Rory sound I'm fiddling with at the
moment.

But I know my time and money are better spent improving my pinch-
harmonics or pinky slides. IOW...it ain't the gear that's the
problem :)

Cheers

GDS

"Let's roll!"




Re: Dallas Rangemaster vs. Keely Java Boost - Appledog - 6-:16 -0-09-20

On Jun 16, 10:53=A0pm, GreenDistantStar <greendistants...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Jun 16, 9:07=A0pm, Renli <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Ok so I've noticed that all of my favourite guitarists used Dallas
> > Rangemaster Treble Boosters. Clapton used one on beano, Iommi used one
> > on all of his albums with ozzy, jimmy page used one, and so on...
> > interesting!
>
> > I thought it was just an overdrive pedal type and I'm still waiting
> > for my Okko Diablo Plus, so I am a little leary of buying another
> > pedal until I get my Okko. But nevertheless I was looking at some
> > other pedals and the other one which seems to be about on par (based
> > on reviews) is the Keely Java Boost. Ok so I fired up some youtube
> > videos and the Keely Java Boost sounds like crap. No offense, but for
> > example in the proguitarshop review the left-switched version sounds
> > absolutely nothing like a sabbath tone - what is that guy smoking? And
> > in the center position it sounds nothing like a rangemaster. Ok fine,
> > but as a treble booster, I expected it to sound /something/ like those
> > classic/vintage tones and it doesn't. Yet all the youtube videos I see
> > of the rangemaster NAIL the tone I am hearing. They nail it - not
> > exactly but the spirit is there. The spirit is simply not there with a
> > Keely Java Boost.
>
> > So I am wondering - in all your knowledge - can anyone point out some
> > major label releases which have used the keely java boost? I'm
> > interested in what it's supposed to sound like - you know, does anyone
> > out there know any song which has been released in which a keely java
> > boost was used? As a close second, does anyone know a good sounding
> > youtube review/demo of the keely java boost? I'm interested in this
> > pedal but at this point it seems obvious I could only live with a
> > dallas rangemaster. BTW, I can't find any on ebay. S***!!!
>
> > Thanks for the help guys.
>
> Hi Ollie
>
> I want you to try and take these comments in the good spirit in which
> they're intended.
>
> What exactly do you want to achieve with your guitar playing? It does
> seem to me that you obsess over buying a tone. Let me put that in
> perspective.
>
> Almost every guitarist wants what they consider to be a good tone.
>
> The caveat that comes with making the most of a good tone, no matter
> what your rig, is your facility.
>
> We can buy exactly the same gear (or close to it) as any of our
> favourite players, but 'it' is in the fingers, and perhaps in the DNA,
> of those players.
>
> If I added a Rangemaster to the rig I'm playing now, I'm sure I'd get
> a really close match to the Rory sound I'm fiddling with at the
> moment.
>
> But I know my time and money are better spent improving my pinch-
> harmonics or pinky slides. IOW...it ain't the gear that's the
> problem :)
>
> Cheers
>
> GDS
>
> "Let's roll!"

I wondered - where did the topic go? I thought, it's probably just
that nut from the austrian remailer. But on the off chance, I un-
killfiled you and I must say I was surprised.

Anyways.

What I want to achieve is a singing sort of tone - something
different, that's all, to add to my arsenal. You know, like the
difference between coarse pate and fine pate. I'm willing to wait for
my okko diablo plus. But after that I am likely to look at a treble
booster.

Let me put it this way. I'm working on my BB king vibrato technique,
but I lose a lot of /sustain/ after a few seconds - also on bends. Ok
so there is some technique to that but lets be honest - if I want the
sort of infinite sustain that I hear on "warning" (black sabbath) or
"double crossing" (beano album) I am going to need a treble booster or
overdrive pedal. It seems obvious to me that is how clapton and iommi
got their singing sustain. There is no technique alive that will
produce /infinite/ sustain. You use vibrato, but you need to either
overdrive and get feedback or go the treble booster route. You can't
just hit a note and have it ring forever unless you are using one of
those fancy moog guitars, I suppose.

As for what tone I am looking for, I just want something versatile
which is why I ordered an okko diablo plus versus a regular diablo.
The treble booster is just another direction I am looking into to
achieve a "creamier", sustain-driven tone. I am not really looking to
cop anyone's tone but there are certain qualities of tone I am looking
for, as mentioned above (fine pate tone versus coarse pate tone,
sustain, cry/sing, etc)

I was listening to the bb king definitive greatest hits double CD the
other day and wondering at his guitar tone. It wasn't at all like what
I thought it would be based on some of the live recordings I've heard.
Also I'll be honest, robert lockwood had a crappy guitar tone compared
to what I would think my ideal tone would be. So a tone like BB king
is nice but "hollow".. gregor hilden's tone on his youtube recordings
is nice, but a little flat. Also I find the beano tone nice but not
groundbreaking... listening to the beano tone (which I have been doing
a lot recently) esp. on hideaway which is really the centerpiece of
the album IMO.. it's nothing special. I have some intangible tone
goals I suppose but it's more of a journey you complete as you walk
it.. Maybe one day once I have direct experience with a lot more
pedals and as my skill improves I will be in a better position to
choose from among several different tones, but right now I am just
putting my first tones out there and seeing what I can get.

All that being said it's clear to me /from what I have seen/ that a
dallas rangemaster > a keely java boost. However I was just wondering
if there were any major label releases out there featuring a keely
java boost in the same way beano or black sabbath I featured a dallas
rangemaster.

-

Re: Dallas Rangemaster vs. Keely Java Boost - ed s - 6-:16 -0-09-20

On Jun 16, 10:32=A0am, Appledog <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 16, 10:53=A0pm, GreenDistantStar <greendistants...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 16, 9:07=A0pm, Renli <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Ok so I've noticed that all of my favourite guitarists used Dallas
> > > Rangemaster Treble Boosters. Clapton used one on beano, Iommi used on=
e
> > > on all of his albums with ozzy, jimmy page used one, and so on...
> > > interesting!
>
> > > I thought it was just an overdrive pedal type and I'm still waiting
> > > for my Okko Diablo Plus, so I am a little leary of buying another
> > > pedal until I get my Okko. But nevertheless I was looking at some
> > > other pedals and the other one which seems to be about on par (based
> > > on reviews) is the Keely Java Boost. Ok so I fired up some youtube
> > > videos and the Keely Java Boost sounds like crap. No offense, but for
> > > example in the proguitarshop review the left-switched version sounds
> > > absolutely nothing like a sabbath tone - what is that guy smoking? An=
d
> > > in the center position it sounds nothing like a rangemaster. Ok fine,
> > > but as a treble booster, I expected it to sound /something/ like thos=
e
> > > classic/vintage tones and it doesn't. Yet all the youtube videos I se=
e
> > > of the rangemaster NAIL the tone I am hearing. They nail it - not
> > > exactly but the spirit is there. The spirit is simply not there with =
a
> > > Keely Java Boost.
>
> > > So I am wondering - in all your knowledge - can anyone point out some
> > > major label releases which have used the keely java boost? I'm
> > > interested in what it's supposed to sound like - you know, does anyon=
e
> > > out there know any song which has been released in which a keely java
> > > boost was used? As a close second, does anyone know a good sounding
> > > youtube review/demo of the keely java boost? I'm interested in this
> > > pedal but at this point it seems obvious I could only live with a
> > > dallas rangemaster. BTW, I can't find any on ebay. S***!!!
>
> > > Thanks for the help guys.
>
> > Hi Ollie
>
> > I want you to try and take these comments in the good spirit in which
> > they're intended.
>
> > What exactly do you want to achieve with your guitar playing? It does
> > seem to me that you obsess over buying a tone. Let me put that in
> > perspective.
>
> > Almost every guitarist wants what they consider to be a good tone.
>
> > The caveat that comes with making the most of a good tone, no matter
> > what your rig, is your facility.
>
> > We can buy exactly the same gear (or close to it) as any of our
> > favourite players, but 'it' is in the fingers, and perhaps in the DNA,
> > of those players.
>
> > If I added a Rangemaster to the rig I'm playing now, I'm sure I'd get
> > a really close match to the Rory sound I'm fiddling with at the
> > moment.
>
> > But I know my time and money are better spent improving my pinch-
> > harmonics or pinky slides. IOW...it ain't the gear that's the
> > problem :)
>
> > Cheers
>
> > GDS
>
> > "Let's roll!"
>
> I wondered - where did the topic go? I thought, it's probably just
> that nut from the austrian remailer. But on the off chance, I un-
> killfiled you and I must say I was surprised.
>
> Anyways.
>
> What I want to achieve is a singing sort of tone - something
> different, that's all, to add to my arsenal. You know, like the
> difference between coarse pate and fine pate. I'm willing to wait for
> my okko diablo plus. But after that I am likely to look at a treble
> booster.
>
> Let me put it this way. I'm working on my BB king vibrato technique,
> but I lose a lot of /sustain/ after a few seconds - also on bends. Ok
> so there is some technique to that but lets be honest - if I want the
> sort of infinite sustain that I hear on "warning" (black sabbath) or
> "double crossing" (beano album) I am going to need a treble booster or
> overdrive pedal. It seems obvious to me that is how clapton and iommi
> got their singing sustain. There is no technique alive that will
> produce /infinite/ sustain. You use vibrato, but you need to either
> overdrive and get feedback or go the treble booster route. You can't
> just hit a note and have it ring forever unless you are using one of
> those fancy moog guitars, I suppose.
>
> As for what tone I am looking for, I just want something versatile
> which is why I ordered an okko diablo plus versus a regular diablo.
> The treble booster is just another direction I am looking into to
> achieve a "creamier", sustain-driven tone. I am not really looking to
> cop anyone's tone but there are certain qualities of tone I am looking
> for, as mentioned above (fine pate tone versus coarse pate tone,
> sustain, cry/sing, etc)
>
> I was listening to the bb king definitive greatest hits double CD the
> other day and wondering at his guitar tone. It wasn't at all like what
> I thought it would be based on some of the live recordings I've heard.
> Also I'll be honest, robert lockwood had a crappy guitar tone compared
> to what I would think my ideal tone would be. So a tone like BB king
> is nice but "hollow".. gregor hilden's tone on his youtube recordings
> is nice, but a little flat. Also I find the beano tone nice but not
> groundbreaking... listening to the beano tone (which I have been doing
> a lot recently) esp. on hideaway which is really the centerpiece of
> the album IMO.. it's nothing special. I have some intangible tone
> goals I suppose but it's more of a journey you complete as you walk
> it.. Maybe one day once I have direct experience with a lot more
> pedals and as my skill improves I will be in a better position to
> choose from among several different tones, but right now I am just
> putting my first tones out there and seeing what I can get.
>
> All that being said it's clear to me /from what I have seen/ that a
> dallas rangemaster > a keely java boost. However I was just wondering
> if there were any major label releases out there featuring a keely
> java boost in the same way beano or black sabbath I featured a dallas
> rangemaster.
>
> -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I think you may have just walked past what your looking for without
noticing. "Feedback" - BB uses arch tops they get feedback easy...
Other guitars do also -its amp feedback - gadgets add to it but its
the amp at VOLUME driving the strings and guitar that gets infinite
sustain (listen to Jimi ). Compression / Distortion can also help but
everything will die out eventually if its not driven by the guitar
getting hit with the amp. It does take technique to tame it though.
ed s.

Re: Dallas Rangemaster vs. Keely Java Boost - trey - 6-:16 -0-09-20

I have a rangemaster clone that I bought off of the ebay. I would
never use it with say a clean amp and a strat, but It is nice with a
Cranked up amp, or an amp with a little bit of gain and some
humbuckers. It adds lots of gain depending on how high you turn it
up, and it gives a certain little crying tone that I like. I can't
remember who I got it from I think it was fuzzboxworld or something
like that. I've read that when using a vox or Marshall with a Gibson
guitar it really adds to the sound.

I have used it with my fender prosonic on the dirty channel with the
gain1 on like 2 or three and the gain2 turned off with my Hamer guitar
with a PAF style neck pickup tuned down to C# and got a fairly good
Iommi/Masters sort of tone after screwing around with the tone
controls for a while. I compared it to the album playing Into the
Void on my turntable. Mind you this was just in my basement. I used
the rangemaster a bit at a few gigs, but I was playing a strat and I
don't like it as much with the strat.

I have never tried a Javaboost, though I have had a couple of people
rave about them too me. I thought they were stupid expensive compared
to what you can find a Rangemaster clone for, but that's just me.

Re: Dallas Rangemaster vs. Keely Java Boost - Meat Plow - 6-:16 -0-09-20

On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:07:40 -0700 (PDT), Renli
<oliver.richman@gmail.com>wrote:

>Ok so I've noticed that all of my favourite guitarists used Dallas
>Rangemaster Treble Boosters. Clapton used one on beano, Iommi used one
>on all of his albums with ozzy, jimmy page used one, and so on...
>interesting!
>
>I thought it was just an overdrive pedal type and I'm still waiting
>for my Okko Diablo Plus, so I am a little leary of buying another
>pedal until I get my Okko. But nevertheless I was looking at some
>other pedals and the other one which seems to be about on par (based
>on reviews) is the Keely Java Boost. Ok so I fired up some youtube
>videos and the Keely Java Boost sounds like crap. No offense, but for
>example in the proguitarshop review the left-switched version sounds
>absolutely nothing like a sabbath tone - what is that guy smoking? And
>in the center position it sounds nothing like a rangemaster. Ok fine,
>but as a treble booster, I expected it to sound /something/ like those
>classic/vintage tones and it doesn't. Yet all the youtube videos I see
>of the rangemaster NAIL the tone I am hearing. They nail it - not
>exactly but the spirit is there. The spirit is simply not there with a
>Keely Java Boost.
>
>So I am wondering - in all your knowledge - can anyone point out some
>major label releases which have used the keely java boost? I'm
>interested in what it's supposed to sound like - you know, does anyone
>out there know any song which has been released in which a keely java
>boost was used? As a close second, does anyone know a good sounding
>youtube review/demo of the keely java boost? I'm interested in this
>pedal but at this point it seems obvious I could only live with a
>dallas rangemaster. BTW, I can't find any on ebay. S***!!!
>
>Thanks for the help guys.
>
>-

So you think a pedal is going to make you sound like Clapton?

heh...

Re: Dallas Rangemaster vs. Keely Java Boost - Tony Done - 6-:16 -0-09-20


"Renli" <oliver.richman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:86dea115-d922-4894-91d2-4279a507be76@w9g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> Ok so I've noticed that all of my favourite guitarists used Dallas
> Rangemaster Treble Boosters. Clapton used one on beano, Iommi used one
> on all of his albums with ozzy, jimmy page used one, and so on...
> interesting!
>
> I thought it was just an overdrive pedal type and I'm still waiting
> for my Okko Diablo Plus, so I am a little leary of buying another
> pedal until I get my Okko. But nevertheless I was looking at some
> other pedals and the other one which seems to be about on par (based
> on reviews) is the Keely Java Boost. Ok so I fired up some youtube
> videos and the Keely Java Boost sounds like crap. No offense, but for
> example in the proguitarshop review the left-switched version sounds
> absolutely nothing like a sabbath tone - what is that guy smoking? And
> in the center position it sounds nothing like a rangemaster. Ok fine,
> but as a treble booster, I expected it to sound /something/ like those
> classic/vintage tones and it doesn't. Yet all the youtube videos I see
> of the rangemaster NAIL the tone I am hearing. They nail it - not
> exactly but the spirit is there. The spirit is simply not there with a
> Keely Java Boost.
>
> So I am wondering - in all your knowledge - can anyone point out some
> major label releases which have used the keely java boost? I'm
> interested in what it's supposed to sound like - you know, does anyone
> out there know any song which has been released in which a keely java
> boost was used? As a close second, does anyone know a good sounding
> youtube review/demo of the keely java boost? I'm interested in this
> pedal but at this point it seems obvious I could only live with a
> dallas rangemaster. BTW, I can't find any on ebay. S***!!!
>
> Thanks for the help guys.
>
> -

Do you really think it is a good idea to collect all these noise toys? Ask
yourself what you really need to challenge your technique and thereby become
more a proficient player. I don't know about you, but in my case re
electrics, it is a guitar/amp combo that sounds good, with the guitar well
set up. After that, something to give the compression and harmonics of
extreme OD, which the H&K will do very well, to develop string damping
skills. Next on the list would be some way of generating blues style
overdrive, which the H&K Statesman (or an 808 style pedal) will also do just
fine, to develop picking dynamics.

Someone else might want to know how to use a whammy and a wah, not me (at
least not yet), but all this other stuff just looks like icing on the cake
to me that isn't going to help you become a better player. In fact it might
be an unnecessary distraction from the more serious business of learning to
play.

Tony D


Re: Dallas Rangemaster vs. Keely Java Boost - rct - 6-:16 -0-09-20

Tony Done wrote:


> but all this other stuff just looks like icing on the cake
> to me that isn't going to help you become a better player. In fact it might
> be an unnecessary distraction from the more serious business of learning to
> play.

It's been that way for years. The pedal makers have no shame about it
either, why bother to play when you can buy a sound?

rct

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