Jimmy Page and Kinks? - RK - 6-:15 -0-09-20
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Rumours has it that Jimmy at a young age was a studio musician and also
played (invented) the famous "You really got me" riff. Has this ever been
verified?
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Re: Jimmy Page and Kinks? - Les Cargill - 6-:15 -0-09-20
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RK wrote:
> Rumours has it that Jimmy at a young age was a studio musician and also
> played (invented) the famous "You really got me" riff. Has this ever been
> verified?
>
>
Dunno if it'll ever be known for sure. Dave Davies has a
book out, and claims credit for it.
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Les Cargill
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Re: Jimmy Page and Kinks? - Billy Brit - 6-:15 -0-09-20
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Les Cargill wrote:
> RK wrote:
>> Rumours has it that Jimmy at a young age was a studio musician and
>> also played (invented) the famous "You really got me" riff. Has this
>> ever been verified?
> Dunno if it'll ever be known for sure. Dave Davies has a
> book out, and claims credit for it.
Are you sure it wasn't a chap called Scott Lifshine? He claims to have
taught John Lennon how to read and Jimi Hendrix how to play so I see no
reason why he couldn't have written that riff... ;)
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Re: Jimmy Page and Kinks? - Restless Fingers Syndrome - 6-:15 -0-09-20
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RK wrote:
> Rumours has it that Jimmy at a young age was a studio musician and also
> played (invented) the famous "You really got me" riff. Has this ever been
> verified?
>
>
Rumor I recall from the 70's is that Page did the solo on the studio
take because Davis' little brother didn't have enough cred to cut it .
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Re: Jimmy Page and Kinks? - Nil - 6-:15 -0-09-20
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On 15 Jun 2009, "RK" <at@at.at> wrote in alt.guitar:
> Rumours has it that Jimmy at a young age was a studio musician and
> also played (invented) the famous "You really got me" riff. Has
> this ever been verified?
I don't think it's ever been verified, but Page was an busy studio
musician in those days and he did a lot of work for producer Shel
Talmy, who produced many of The Kink's early albums. I think it's
likely that he played rhythm guitar on some of those records, but I
don't think he played that solo. It doesn't sound that difficult or
technical, it sounds like something even the young Dave Davies could
have played.
I'm sure Page didn't invent the riff, and I don't believe anyone has
ever disputed that the Davies brothers wrote it.
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Re: Jimmy Page and Kinks? - Claude V. Lucas - 6-:15 -0-09-20
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In article <h15ue7$dr8$3@news.eternal-september.org>,
Billy Brit <billybrit@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>Les Cargill wrote:
>
>> RK wrote:
>
>>> Rumours has it that Jimmy at a young age was a studio musician and
>>> also played (invented) the famous "You really got me" riff. Has this
>>> ever been verified?
>
>> Dunno if it'll ever be known for sure. Dave Davies has a
>> book out, and claims credit for it.
>
>Are you sure it wasn't a chap called Scott Lifshine? He claims to have
>taught John Lennon how to read and Jimi Hendrix how to play so I see no
>reason why he couldn't have written that riff... ;)
I'm pretty sure that it was White Spurt before he changed sox.
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Re: Jimmy Page and Kinks? - Billy Brit - 6-:15 -0-09-20
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Claude V. Lucas wrote:
> I'm pretty sure that it was White Spurt before he changed sox.
I wouldn't know - I put him in my killfile pretty early on.
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Re: Jimmy Page and Kinks? - RichL - 6-:15 -0-09-20
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Nil <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 15 Jun 2009, "RK" <at@at.at> wrote in alt.guitar:
>
>> Rumours has it that Jimmy at a young age was a studio musician and
>> also played (invented) the famous "You really got me" riff. Has
>> this ever been verified?
>
> I don't think it's ever been verified, but Page was an busy studio
> musician in those days and he did a lot of work for producer Shel
> Talmy, who produced many of The Kink's early albums. I think it's
> likely that he played rhythm guitar on some of those records, but I
> don't think he played that solo. It doesn't sound that difficult or
> technical, it sounds like something even the young Dave Davies could
> have played.
>
> I'm sure Page didn't invent the riff, and I don't believe anyone has
> ever disputed that the Davies brothers wrote it.
That's my understanding. Dave Davies wrote and played the riff. Page
played rhythm on some of the Kinks' early records but not on "You Really
Got Me".
Wikipedia agrees:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Really_Got_Me
"The guitar solo on the recording is the source of one of the most
controversial and persistent myths in all of rock and roll: that it was
not played by the Kinks' lead guitarist Dave Davies, but by then-session
player Jimmy Page. The solo was undoubtedly played by Dave Davies (then
seventeen years old), as everyone involved in the July 1964 recording
sessions for the track has always maintained. Although an effective and
integral part of the song, it is essentially a faster variation of the
"Louie Louie" guitar solo, and did not represent a great technical or
stylistic achievement on par with that song's driving three-chord rhythm
backing (save for the method of playing the pentatonic scale in a manner
that "seems" sloppy; this technique is a major watershed in the history
of rock and roll, arguably an influence on punk rock). However, the
story has circulated for decades that the solo was played by Jimmy Page,
who later joined The Yardbirds and Led Zeppelin. Page was in fact hired
by Kinks producer Shel Talmy as a session rhythm guitarist on a handful
of tracks on the Kinks' first album, but those sessions took place
several weeks after the "You Really Got Me" session. Page has always
denied playing the song's guitar solo, going so far as to state in a
1977 interview that "I didn't play on 'You Really Got Me' and that's
what pisses him (Ray Davies) off." Rock historian and author Doug Hinman
makes a case that the rumour was begun and fostered by the established
UK Rhythm and Blues community, many of whose members were resentful that
an upstart band of teenagers such as the Kinks could produce such a
powerful and influential blues-based recording, seemingly out of
nowhere."
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Re: Jimmy Page and Kinks? - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22=7C=7C=5C=5CM=5C=5C/M/=7C=7C_=AE=22?= - 6-:15 -0-09-20
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Claude V. Lucas wrote:
> In article <h15ue7$dr8$3@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Billy Brit <billybrit@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>> Les Cargill wrote:
>>
>>> RK wrote:
>>>> Rumours has it that Jimmy at a young age was a studio musician and
>>>> also played (invented) the famous "You really got me" riff. Has this
>>>> ever been verified?
>>> Dunno if it'll ever be known for sure. Dave Davies has a
>>> book out, and claims credit for it.
>> Are you sure it wasn't a chap called Scott Lifshine? He claims to have
>> taught John Lennon how to read and Jimi Hendrix how to play so I see no
>> reason why he couldn't have written that riff... ;)
>
> I'm pretty sure that it was White Spurt before he changed sox.
Infected Spurt.
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Re: Jimmy Page and Kinks? - Lee Waun - 6-:15 -0-09-20
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"Billy Brit" <billybrit@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:h15ue7$dr8$3@news.eternal-september.org...
> Les Cargill wrote:
>
>> RK wrote:
>
>>> Rumours has it that Jimmy at a young age was a studio musician and also
>>> played (invented) the famous "You really got me" riff. Has this ever
>>> been verified?
>
>> Dunno if it'll ever be known for sure. Dave Davies has a
>> book out, and claims credit for it.
>
> Are you sure it wasn't a chap called Scott Lifshine? He claims to have
> taught John Lennon how to read and Jimi Hendrix how to play so I see no
> reason why he couldn't have written that riff... ;)
I know for a fact Scott Lifshine taught Leo Fender how to design guitars.
The Telecaster was originallly going to be called the Lifelcaster but Scott
being modest and all couldn't take credit for someting he had invented.
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