Re: Getting into Elvis Costello lately.. cool stuff - Von Face - 6-:12 -0-09-20
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On Jun 12, 4:52=A0pm, Squier <squ...@strats.net> wrote:
> Ok well.. I like a lot of different music.
> But my friend has old albums from his dad and we
> listened to Elvis Costello and this is great music.
>
> Yeah - it's not super lead guitar driven but they
> are great songs. =A0Written and played really well
> with a sound that is also 'trademark' type of sound.
> As soon as I hear any of his songs it sounds like him and the band.
>
> Sometimes this older stuff is way better than anything out now.
> Lots of good new stuff too but I'm having a good time going
> through this older stuff and really enjoying it.
>
> Elvis and his bad have a great sound to them. =A0great lyrics too.
> Kinda reminds me of harder edged Dylan type lyrics (in a way).
> And they play with varying rhythms time signatures on some songs
> which mixes it up a bit. =A0cool.
>
> Chalk up another band that will probably further influence me.
> I think the oldest stuff I have ever listened to and liked were
> old Fats Domino records and it's like a trail of blues and rock and roll
> and R&B and Metal and whatever else from there. =A0It's a good thing this=
stuff
> was recorded or I don't think anyone could have ever 'gotten it'
> properly just from reading charts or tabs or all out written notation.
>
> ps. =A0a lot of what EVH did I have heard in many recordings previous
> to VH songs. =A0I am not arguing that he popularized the hammer on techni=
que
> and other techniques - but there were songs back in the 60's that
> had a lot of this although it wasn't prominent - just a few riffs
> or licks for fill but it was there in those 2 or 3 minute songs.
>
> Same thing with Iron Maiden and early Sabbath. =A0it seems like every
> riff and lick and chord progression used by these guys is heard in
> just about every metal song since then. =A0Just variations on the same ri=
ffs.
>
> I am finding so much going back to old skool stuff. it's all there. =A0ve=
ry cool.
>
> yeah. I type too much.
Right on Squier.....
Sometimes the SONG is overlooked because of the flash.
Elvis has a unique style....very good songwriter.
A similar artist is Ron Sexsmith.....he's like Elvis Jr....haha.
I've been really hitting WILCO lately.....
Kinda feel the same way about them!
http://www.soundclick.com/edvonface
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Getting into Elvis Costello lately.. cool stuff - Squier - 6-:12 -0-09-20
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Ok well.. I like a lot of different music.
But my friend has old albums from his dad and we
listened to Elvis Costello and this is great music.
Yeah - it's not super lead guitar driven but they
are great songs. Written and played really well
with a sound that is also 'trademark' type of sound.
As soon as I hear any of his songs it sounds like him and the band.
Sometimes this older stuff is way better than anything out now.
Lots of good new stuff too but I'm having a good time going
through this older stuff and really enjoying it.
Elvis and his bad have a great sound to them. great lyrics too.
Kinda reminds me of harder edged Dylan type lyrics (in a way).
And they play with varying rhythms time signatures on some songs
which mixes it up a bit. cool.
Chalk up another band that will probably further influence me.
I think the oldest stuff I have ever listened to and liked were
old Fats Domino records and it's like a trail of blues and rock and roll
and R&B and Metal and whatever else from there. It's a good thing this stuff
was recorded or I don't think anyone could have ever 'gotten it'
properly just from reading charts or tabs or all out written notation.
ps. a lot of what EVH did I have heard in many recordings previous
to VH songs. I am not arguing that he popularized the hammer on technique
and other techniques - but there were songs back in the 60's that
had a lot of this although it wasn't prominent - just a few riffs
or licks for fill but it was there in those 2 or 3 minute songs.
Same thing with Iron Maiden and early Sabbath. it seems like every
riff and lick and chord progression used by these guys is heard in
just about every metal song since then. Just variations on the same riffs.
I am finding so much going back to old skool stuff. it's all there. very cool.
yeah. I type too much.
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Re: Getting into Elvis Costello lately.. cool stuff - Les Cargill - 6-:12 -0-09-20
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Squier wrote:
> Ok well.. I like a lot of different music.
> But my friend has old albums from his dad and we
> listened to Elvis Costello and this is great music.
>
<snip>
>
> I am finding so much going back to old skool stuff. it's all there. very cool.
>
> yeah. I type too much.
See if you can find a duet he did with Lucinda Williams titled
"Jailhouse Tears".
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Les Cargill
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Re: Getting into Elvis Costello lately.. cool stuff - mercutio - 6-:12 -0-09-20
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:52:04 -0500, Squier <squier@strats.net> wrote:
>Ok well.. I like a lot of different music.
>But my friend has old albums from his dad and we
>listened to Elvis Costello and this is great music.
>
>Yeah - it's not super lead guitar driven but they
>are great songs. Written and played really well
>with a sound that is also 'trademark' type of sound.
>As soon as I hear any of his songs it sounds like him and the band.
>
>Sometimes this older stuff is way better than anything out now.
>Lots of good new stuff too but I'm having a good time going
>through this older stuff and really enjoying it.
>
>Elvis and his bad have a great sound to them. great lyrics too.
>Kinda reminds me of harder edged Dylan type lyrics (in a way).
>And they play with varying rhythms time signatures on some songs
>which mixes it up a bit. cool.
>
>Chalk up another band that will probably further influence me.
>I think the oldest stuff I have ever listened to and liked were
>old Fats Domino records and it's like a trail of blues and rock and roll
>and R&B and Metal and whatever else from there. It's a good thing this stuff
>was recorded or I don't think anyone could have ever 'gotten it'
>properly just from reading charts or tabs or all out written notation.
>
>ps. a lot of what EVH did I have heard in many recordings previous
>to VH songs. I am not arguing that he popularized the hammer on technique
>and other techniques - but there were songs back in the 60's that
>had a lot of this although it wasn't prominent - just a few riffs
>or licks for fill but it was there in those 2 or 3 minute songs.
>
>Same thing with Iron Maiden and early Sabbath. it seems like every
>riff and lick and chord progression used by these guys is heard in
>just about every metal song since then. Just variations on the same riffs.
>
>I am finding so much going back to old skool stuff. it's all there. very cool.
>
>yeah. I type too much.
If you like Elvis try Nick Lowe (What's So Funny about Peace Love and
Understanding) Smart and Funny Pop/rock music (in the best sense of
both words)
Jim
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Re: Getting into Elvis Costello lately.. cool stuff - Dr. Zontar - 6-:12 -0-09-20
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On Jun 12, 4:52=A0pm, Squier <squ...@strats.net> wrote:
> Kinda reminds me of harder edged Dylan type lyrics (in a way).
> And they play with varying rhythms time signatures on some songs
> which mixes it up a bit. =A0cool.
I love Costello's first 3 albums. Also see if you can find the "Brutal
Truth" CD. There are some fantastic songs on there.
> Same thing with Iron Maiden and early Sabbath. =A0it seems like every
> riff and lick and chord progression used by these guys is heard in
> just about every metal song since then. =A0Just variations on the same ri=
ffs.
Sabbath invented everything... even stuff we haven't heard yet.
- Rich
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Re: Getting into Elvis Costello lately.. cool stuff - Dr. Zontar - 6-:12 -0-09-20
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On Jun 12, 4:18=A0pm, Von Face <ragsrande...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been really hitting WILCO lately.....
> Kinda feel the same way about them!
I just don't get Wilco. I like some of the stuff Nels Cline does on
guitar. But the songs just don't do anything for me. They just kinda
drift by uneventfully. I can listen to a whole CD and nothing grabs
me. Oh well. Different strokes, etc.
- Rich
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Re: Getting into Elvis Costello lately.. cool stuff - Les Cargill - 6-:12 -0-09-20
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Dr. Zontar wrote:
> On Jun 12, 4:18 pm, Von Face <ragsrande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been really hitting WILCO lately.....
>> Kinda feel the same way about them!
>
> I just don't get Wilco. I like some of the stuff Nels Cline does on
> guitar. But the songs just don't do anything for me.
I have to agree. They're very clever pieces in an incoherent whole,
which ab-so-lutely no hook.
> They just kinda
> drift by uneventfully. I can listen to a whole CD and nothing grabs
> me. Oh well. Different strokes, etc.
>
Maybe they reward a parcel of obsession over them.
> - Rich
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Les Cargill
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Re: Getting into Elvis Costello lately.. cool stuff - Les Cargill - 6-:12 -0-09-20
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mercutio wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:52:04 -0500, Squier <squier@strats.net> wrote:
>
>> Ok well.. I like a lot of different music.
>> But my friend has old albums from his dad and we
>> listened to Elvis Costello and this is great music.
>>
>> Yeah - it's not super lead guitar driven but they
>> are great songs. Written and played really well
>> with a sound that is also 'trademark' type of sound.
>> As soon as I hear any of his songs it sounds like him and the band.
>>
>> Sometimes this older stuff is way better than anything out now.
>> Lots of good new stuff too but I'm having a good time going
>> through this older stuff and really enjoying it.
>>
>> Elvis and his bad have a great sound to them. great lyrics too.
>> Kinda reminds me of harder edged Dylan type lyrics (in a way).
>> And they play with varying rhythms time signatures on some songs
>> which mixes it up a bit. cool.
>>
>> Chalk up another band that will probably further influence me.
>> I think the oldest stuff I have ever listened to and liked were
>> old Fats Domino records and it's like a trail of blues and rock and roll
>> and R&B and Metal and whatever else from there. It's a good thing this stuff
>> was recorded or I don't think anyone could have ever 'gotten it'
>> properly just from reading charts or tabs or all out written notation.
>>
>> ps. a lot of what EVH did I have heard in many recordings previous
>> to VH songs. I am not arguing that he popularized the hammer on technique
>> and other techniques - but there were songs back in the 60's that
>> had a lot of this although it wasn't prominent - just a few riffs
>> or licks for fill but it was there in those 2 or 3 minute songs.
>>
>> Same thing with Iron Maiden and early Sabbath. it seems like every
>> riff and lick and chord progression used by these guys is heard in
>> just about every metal song since then. Just variations on the same riffs.
>>
>> I am finding so much going back to old skool stuff. it's all there. very cool.
>>
>> yeah. I type too much.
>
> If you like Elvis try Nick Lowe (What's So Funny about Peace Love and
> Understanding) Smart and Funny Pop/rock music (in the best sense of
> both words)
>
> Jim
>
http://www.truveo.com/Austin-City-Limits-NickLowe-and-The-Swell-Season/id/3140485847
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Les Cargill
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Re: Getting into Elvis Costello lately.. cool stuff - RichL - 6-:12 -0-09-20
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Squier <squier@strats.net> wrote:
> Ok well.. I like a lot of different music.
> But my friend has old albums from his dad and we
> listened to Elvis Costello and this is great music.
>
> Yeah - it's not super lead guitar driven but they
> are great songs. Written and played really well
> with a sound that is also 'trademark' type of sound.
> As soon as I hear any of his songs it sounds like him and the band.
>
> Sometimes this older stuff is way better than anything out now.
> Lots of good new stuff too but I'm having a good time going
> through this older stuff and really enjoying it.
>
> Elvis and his bad have a great sound to them. great lyrics too.
> Kinda reminds me of harder edged Dylan type lyrics (in a way).
> And they play with varying rhythms time signatures on some songs
> which mixes it up a bit. cool.
>
> Chalk up another band that will probably further influence me.
You could do worse.
I'm coming at this from the opposite angle. I always thought Costello
belonged to the generation after me. The first time I heard one of his
songs was when Linda Ronstadt did her cover of "Alison" (from Costello's
first album) on her 1978 "Living in the USA" album. That song blew me
away. It still does. That's when I figured that Elvis had something
special.
But the moral of the story, from both your and my angles, is to
*listen*, keep an open mind and open ears. You might never know when
some really old stuff will turn you on, just as I'm constantly being
surprised (pleasantly) by *NEW* stuff that I hear on occasion now.
There are always opportunities out there to add to your bag of tricks,
and you never know when you're going to find the next trick.
p.s...Costello plays a Jazzmaster for some of his stuff. He can't be
all bad :-)
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Re: Getting into Elvis Costello lately.. cool stuff - TheChris - 6-:12 -0-09-20
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Squier <squier@strats.net> wrote in news:120620091552044754%
squier@strats.net:
> Ok well.. I like a lot of different music.
> But my friend has old albums from his dad and we
> listened to Elvis Costello and this is great music.
>
> Yeah - it's not super lead guitar driven but they
> are great songs. Written and played really well
> with a sound that is also 'trademark' type of sound.
> As soon as I hear any of his songs it sounds like him and the band.
>
> Sometimes this older stuff is way better than anything out now.
> Lots of good new stuff too but I'm having a good time going
> through this older stuff and really enjoying it.
>
> Elvis and his bad have a great sound to them. great lyrics too.
> Kinda reminds me of harder edged Dylan type lyrics (in a way).
> And they play with varying rhythms time signatures on some songs
> which mixes it up a bit. cool.
>
> Chalk up another band that will probably further influence me.
> I think the oldest stuff I have ever listened to and liked were
> old Fats Domino records and it's like a trail of blues and rock and
roll
> and R&B and Metal and whatever else from there. It's a good thing
this stuff
> was recorded or I don't think anyone could have ever 'gotten it'
> properly just from reading charts or tabs or all out written notation.
>
> ps. a lot of what EVH did I have heard in many recordings previous
> to VH songs. I am not arguing that he popularized the hammer on
technique
> and other techniques - but there were songs back in the 60's that
> had a lot of this although it wasn't prominent - just a few riffs
> or licks for fill but it was there in those 2 or 3 minute songs.
>
> Same thing with Iron Maiden and early Sabbath. it seems like every
> riff and lick and chord progression used by these guys is heard in
> just about every metal song since then. Just variations on the same
riffs.
>
> I am finding so much going back to old skool stuff. it's all there.
very cool.
>
> yeah. I type too much.
His first few albums were really breathtaking - This Years Model -
Olivers Army - My Aim is True. When he was an 'Angry Young Man' :) If
you want to see something funny - hunt down his first appearance on SNL
where he stops the song, and starts a new one....
If you like him - track down the first Joe Jackson album 'Look Sharp' -
again - great songs.....
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