"Tuner wedge"? - Nil - 17:47 12-11-08
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There's a reference in Dan Erlewine's book, "Guitar Player Repair
Guide" to a product supposedly made by Wilkinson. It's a 6" machined
aluminum wedge that you install on the rear side of the guitar
headstock between the tuners and wood such that it graduates the height
of the tuners. This lets you eliminate the need for string trees. You
can get the same feature, of course, with several brands of 3rd party
tuners such as Sperzels, but my Strat's tuners work perfectly fine so
I'm not in a hurry to replace them.
I can't find this product anywhere on the 'net, but don't really know
what to call it and maybe I'm looking for the wrong thing. Has anyone
seen this or know of a source?
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Re: "Tuner wedge"? - SotR - 19:52 12-11-08
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>>>>>>>>>>It's a 6" machined aluminum wedge that you install on the rear
>>>>>>>>>>side of the guitar
headstock between the tuners and wood such that it graduates the height of
the tuners.<<<<
Huh, that's interesting. I installed Fender/Schaller locking tuners on my
Tele and had to put 3 string trees on to compensate for the lack of windings
on the peg.
I read of things like "Fat (finger?)". That clip thing you put on the
head to increase mass, making for better sustain. I wonder if the thing Nil
mentions would have any effect on tone.
SotR
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Re: "Tuner wedge"? - Nil - 21:33 12-11-08
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On 12 Nov 2008, "SotR" <flippy@ssm.com> wrote in alt.guitar:
> Huh, that's interesting. I installed Fender/Schaller locking
> tuners on my Tele and had to put 3 string trees on to compensate
> for the lack of windings on the peg.
I've got Sperzels on two guitars and I don't need string trees on
either. The pegs for the treble strings are short enough that there is
enough break to keep them on the nut.
> I read of things like "Fat (finger?)". That clip thing you put on
> the head to increase mass, making for better sustain. I wonder if
> the thing Nil mentions would have any effect on tone.
I wondered about that, too. The Fat Finger is steel or brass, I think,
and it's bigger. But seems to me that this thing might have some
effect, too. The book also mentions the idea of making the wedge out of
woot, which would be less likely to have an impact, I guess.
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Re: "Tuner wedge"? - Adams661 - 22:02 12-11-08
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On Nov 12, 2:47=A0pm, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> There's a reference in Dan Erlewine's book, "Guitar Player Repair
> Guide" to a product supposedly made by Wilkinson. It's a 6" machined
> aluminum wedge that you install on the rear side of the guitar
> headstock between the tuners and wood such that it graduates the height
> of the tuners. This lets you eliminate the need for string trees. You
> can get the same feature, of course, with several brands of 3rd party
> tuners such as Sperzels, but my Strat's tuners work perfectly fine so
> I'm not in a hurry to replace them.
>
> I can't find this product anywhere on the 'net, but don't really know
> what to call it and maybe I'm looking for the wrong thing. Has anyone
> seen this or know of a source?
Mass at the headsock doesnt do anything good for sustain or tone.
I found this out from building lap steels and experimenting with
different headstock designs. I found that the less mass thats there
increases sustain aqnd makes thye guitar louder and more lively. I
ended up with a headstock 1" thick with its middle wood cut out
leaving a 5/8" thick band on each side to mount the tuners to. The
tuning pegs face in with the buttons up. For a Spanish type electric
guitar I face the buttons back towards the player. Really easy to get
to in both cases. Headstocks built like this are fragile but worth it
in my opinion. If they fall over and break then I just fix them
(happened once) I also angle the headstock at about a 15 degree
angle. The angled headstock is what gives a Les Paul its natural
sustain. Not its weight.
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Re: "Tuner wedge"? - LULU - 23:34 12-11-08
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X-No-Archive:
On Nov 12, 3:47=A0pm, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> There's a reference in Dan Erlewine's book, "Guitar Player Repair
> Guide" to a product supposedly made by Wilkinson. It's a 6" machined
> aluminum wedge that you install on the rear side of the guitar
> headstock between the tuners and wood such that it graduates the height
> of the tuners. This lets you eliminate the need for string trees. You
> can get the same feature, of course, with several brands of 3rd party
> tuners such as Sperzels, but my Strat's tuners work perfectly fine so
> I'm not in a hurry to replace them.
>
> I can't find this product anywhere on the 'net, but don't really know
> what to call it and maybe I'm looking for the wrong thing. Has anyone
> seen this or know of a source?
Nil . . .
. . . why not drop Dan a line and ask him about it? Here's his
address: dan@danerlewine.com Let us know what you find out.
Good Luck,
Lulu : )
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Re: "Tuner wedge"? - Grinner - 00:17 13-11-08
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Re: "Tuner wedge"? - Twibil - 01:38 13-11-08
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On Nov 12, 9:17=A0pm, "Grinner" <grin...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> must look pretty ugly and =A0those old inline tuners look bad enough.
Er, has it occurred to you that the audiance can't normally see the
back of your guitar's tuning head or that very few musicians spend a
lot of time staring at their tuners?
~Pete
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Re: "Tuner wedge"? - Meat Plow - 01:49 13-11-08
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:52:34 -0800, "SotR" <flippy@ssm.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>It's a 6" machined aluminum wedge that you install on the rear
>>>>>>>>>>>side of the guitar
>headstock between the tuners and wood such that it graduates the height of
>the tuners.<<<<
>
> Huh, that's interesting. I installed Fender/Schaller locking tuners on my
>Tele and had to put 3 string trees on to compensate for the lack of windings
>on the peg.
> I read of things like "Fat (finger?)". That clip thing you put on the
>head to increase mass, making for better sustain. I wonder if the thing Nil
>mentions would have any effect on tone.
>
>SotR
>
I've been using just one bar across all 6 strings just behind the nut
on guitars that really need it. Cost me a couple bucks each and I get
20 for the install. I did 5 last week plus some other things. Been
working for my bro in law while he's pursuing some other stuff so I'm
doing most of the guitars that come in and all the electronics/amps.
People aint buying new shit these days but they still need repairs.
Feels good to be doing this for a living again. I was getting tired of
the computers and networking let alone not being able to walk miles a
day because of my fucked up foot and ankle. Yeh I make a lot less
money but it beats welfare and I'm around guitars, amps and gear all
day long.
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Re: "Tuner wedge"? - Patrick Keenan - 23:12 13-11-08
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"SotR" <flippy@ssm.com> wrote in message
news:pTKSk.7611$be.5162@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>It's a 6" machined aluminum wedge that you install on the rear
>>>>>>>>>>>side of the guitar
> headstock between the tuners and wood such that it graduates the height of
> the tuners.<<<<
>
> Huh, that's interesting. I installed Fender/Schaller locking tuners on my
> Tele and had to put 3 string trees on to compensate for the lack of
> windings on the peg.
> I read of things like "Fat (finger?)". That clip thing you put on the
> head to increase mass, making for better sustain. I wonder if the thing
> Nil mentions would have any effect on tone.
>
> SotR
There was another version of the Fat Finger called the Fat Head. It was a
brass plate shaped to a Strat, Tele or Les Paul headstock. You removed the
gears, put the Fat ead on, put the gears back on. It also had the effect
of lowering the post heads.
Hard to find the original product, but easy to make one yourself.
HTH
-pk
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