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Guitar Discussions -> Motzarella+Xnews?
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Motzarella+Xnews? - Nil - 17:44 09-11-08
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I have a question: what kind of cheese do you like in your lasagna? OK,
now the real question... this has to do with using the Xnews newsreader
with the motzarella.org news server so if you use that combination,
please read on...
I find that Xnews hangs for about 3 - 7 seconds every time Xnews tries
to retrieve new headers for just this one group, alt.guitar. That means
every 20 minutes, whenever I enter the group, and whenever I close it.
It doesn't happen with any other group, even those with many more
articles on the server than a.g. It also doesn't happen with any other
news server (aioe or Giganews.) I see the identical behavior on two
separate computers.
So, does anyone else see a similar effect with Xnews or any other
newsreader? Does your reader hang/hesitate/freeze when accessing a.g.?
The admin at motzarella claims that there's nothing unusual or wrong
with the way a.g. is set up on his end, and he doesn't see the same
effect with any of his newsreaders.
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Re: Motzarella+Xnews? - Grinner - 23:04 09-11-08
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Re: Motzarella+Xnews? - Nil - 14:46 11-11-08
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On 09 Nov 2008, "Grinner" <grinner@nowhere.com> wrote in alt.guitar:
> ever checked how big the alt.guitar file is for this newsreader on
> your pc, Lin?
I usually have Xnews set to store articles I've already retrieved, but
as a test I set it to not store anything, so its storage file is 0
bytes. Didn't make any difference. It still hangs whenever checking for
new headers. No other groups does it, even those with many more
articles than a.g. I think its a minor problem with motzarella, despite
the admin's denial.
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Re: Motzarella+Xnews? - Don Evans - 15:06 11-11-08
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Nil wrote:
> On 09 Nov 2008, "Grinner" <grinner@nowhere.com> wrote in alt.guitar:
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>> ever checked how big the alt.guitar file is for this newsreader on
>> your pc, Lin?
>
> I usually have Xnews set to store articles I've already retrieved, but
> as a test I set it to not store anything, so its storage file is 0
> bytes. Didn't make any difference. It still hangs whenever checking
> for new headers. No other groups does it, even those with many more
> articles than a.g. I think its a minor problem with motzarella,
> despite the admin's denial.
Not using X-news, but I've had no problems with Outlook Express since I got
rid of the Comcast (Giganews) account .. there was some kind of conflict,
and Motzarella would hang, but it works now. And the price is certainly
right!
Don
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Re: Motzarella+Xnews? - RichL - 15:42 11-11-08
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Don Evans <don@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Nil wrote:
>> On 09 Nov 2008, "Grinner" <grinner@nowhere.com> wrote in alt.guitar:
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>>> ever checked how big the alt.guitar file is for this newsreader on
>>> your pc, Lin?
>>
>> I usually have Xnews set to store articles I've already retrieved,
>> but as a test I set it to not store anything, so its storage file is
>> 0 bytes. Didn't make any difference. It still hangs whenever checking
>> for new headers. No other groups does it, even those with many more
>> articles than a.g. I think its a minor problem with motzarella,
>> despite the admin's denial.
>
> Not using X-news, but I've had no problems with Outlook Express since
> I got rid of the Comcast (Giganews) account .. there was some kind of
> conflict, and Motzarella would hang, but it works now. And the price
> is certainly right!
Refreshing headers takes a lot longer now that I'm using supernews
compared with either Comcast or Verizon, both of which I've used before.
The difference is most noticable on alt.guitar in comparison with other
newsgroups that I read.
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Re: Motzarella+Xnews? - Nil - 19:34 11-11-08
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:42:19 -0500, RichL wrote:
> Refreshing headers takes a lot longer now that I'm using supernews
> compared with either Comcast or Verizon, both of which I've used before.
> The difference is most noticable on alt.guitar in comparison with other
> newsgroups that I read.
Well, that's interesting to hear. That sounds similar to my symptoms -
retrieving headers from a.g. takes longer than from other groups. Even
though you use a different server, maybe they're related. Thing is, though,
I never noticed the delay with Comcast/Giganews, or with aioe.org. It's
only motzarella. And I haven't been able to tell yet if it happens with
other newsreaders.
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Re: Motzarella+Xnews? - Don Evans - 20:14 11-11-08
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Nil wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:42:19 -0500, RichL wrote:
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>> Refreshing headers takes a lot longer now that I'm using supernews
>> compared with either Comcast or Verizon, both of which I've used
>> before. The difference is most noticable on alt.guitar in comparison
>> with other newsgroups that I read.
>
> Well, that's interesting to hear. That sounds similar to my symptoms -
> retrieving headers from a.g. takes longer than from other groups. Even
> though you use a different server, maybe they're related. Thing is,
> though, I never noticed the delay with Comcast/Giganews, or with
> aioe.org. It's only motzarella. And I haven't been able to tell yet
> if it happens with other newsreaders.
I just tried it with Motz and OE, it took 2 seconds.
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Re: Motzarella+Xnews? - Nil - 20:46 11-11-08
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On 11 Nov 2008, "Don Evans" <don@invalid.invalid> wrote in
alt.guitar:
> I just tried it with Motz and OE, it took 2 seconds.
Is that longer than other groups or longer than you expected?
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Re: Motzarella+Xnews? - Don Evans - 00:37 12-11-08
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Nil wrote:
> On 11 Nov 2008, "Don Evans" <don@invalid.invalid> wrote in
> alt.guitar:
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>> I just tried it with Motz and OE, it took 2 seconds.
>
> Is that longer than other groups or longer than you expected?
Oddly enough, I think it might be faster than Giganews was. As short as it
is, it's just not a problem for me ... what I *have* found is that it's
easier to mess up a group, for instance I had to clear out, reset and reload
rec.audio.pro and I have no idea why .. it just stopped working. Now it
seems fine. Like I said earlier, it's difficult to complain at the price. I
have also noticed that the retention time is way shorter than Giganews, but
that seems to be true of all the groups I look at.
Don
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Re: Motzarella+Xnews? - Nil - 01:11 12-11-08
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On 12 Nov 2008, "Don Evans" <don@invalid.invalid> wrote in
alt.guitar:
> Oddly enough, I think it might be faster than Giganews was.
That's certainly not true for me. Giganews was quite snappy.
Motzarella is slower at everything, but good enough... except for
alt.guitar.
> As short as it is, it's just not a problem for me ... what I
> *have* found is that it's easier to mess up a group, for instance
> I had to clear out, reset and reload rec.audio.pro and I have no
> idea why .. it just stopped working. Now it seems fine. Like I
> said earlier, it's difficult to complain at the price.
If you just changed the server name in your existing OE account,
that would be expected, since the two services number their articles
differently.
> I have also noticed that the retention time is way shorter than
> Giganews, but that seems to be true of all the groups I look at.
I think they advertise, like, 30 or 60 days retention or less,
depending on the group. But, hey, it's free.
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