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Re: Finally got a whammy bar - Greendistantstar - 9-:23 -0-09-20
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jtees4 wrote:
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> I have tried, really tried to love Starts over the years. I have
> probably bought and eventually sold at least five of them. It's like,
> I feel something is wrong with me that I just can't bond with the most
> popular guitar in the world...but I've come to the conclusion that
> they just are not for me. I'm generally a Gibson guy, but I also have
> liked many other brands. I don't know what's wrong with me.
All my early guitars as a teenager were Gibson or Gibson copies, I
couldn't stand Strats. Eventually, the tones I liked most I couldn't get
with any Gibson, but with Strats I could.
Over the years, my tastes have become more eclectic, and I've come to
accept that each has it's own pros and cons. No matter how hard I try, I
can't get, say, a Larry Carlton-like tone with a Strat, so I don't
bother, and same if I want a crisp, twang tone, the LP gets put aside.
Trying to make one sound like the other is a compromise IMHO.
The only real difference is neck stability. Gibson's set necks DO have
issues that you simply don't (or rarely) get with bolt-ons.
I know it's a controversial subject, just my 2c worth :)
GDS
"Let's roll!"
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Re: Finally got a whammy bar - Greendistantstar - 9-:23 -0-09-20
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Lu R wrote:
> "jimmy" <bigtoehere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ba9kb59j7enb612d7lquk0gucmpkusglq3@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:13:42 +1000, "Lu R" <whome@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> "Mark Bedingfield" <atari030@nomorespampleaseoptusnet.com.au> wrote in
>>> message news:4ab98f6e$0$5422$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>> Rufus wrote:
>>>>> Lu R wrote:
>>>>>> My 2nd guitar is a Riviera strat copy which was given to me by a
>>>>>> friend
>>>>>> some years ago. I finally got it a bar and have found it to be a
>>>>>> wonderful way to be creative. Why all electric guitars dont have
>>>>>> whammies is just crazy. The additional tones available are truly worth
>>>>>> it. Im a Gibson man myself but I can see why so many turn to Strats.
>>>>>>
>>>>> ...I'm a Gibson man that recently bought a Deluxe Strat and I haven't
>>>>> got
>>>>> a clue what to do with a whammy...it just gets in my way.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I still prefer a Les Paul to ANYTHING! (I have three...so far...)
>>>>>
>>>> Shakes head.....
>>>>
>>>> Oh Rufus. LP's better than Strats? Nah. Not in my world ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I never used my trem for years and still tend to use left hand vibrato
>>>> but
>>>> I've been working on using it. Why not? Its there for a reason.
>>>>
>>>> I have 3 Strats...so far.... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Lu, check out anything by David Gilmour, he rarely uses any left hand
>>>> vibrato and mostly uses the trem.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>> Mark, Dave is probably my most favoured guitarist ever. The thing that a
>>> whammy can do that the left hand cant do is LOWER the note..:)
>>>
>> Not so sure about that.
>>
>> tony
>
> If you stretch the string by playing it goes higher not lower.
But if you bend the string first and then release, the pitch drops, does
it not?
GDS
"Let's roll!"
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Re: Finally got a whammy bar - Stephen Cowell - 9-:23 -0-09-20
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"Lu R" <whome@hotmail.com> wrote
> If you stretch the string by playing it goes higher not lower.
If you push on the neck the note goes lower.
__
Steve
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Re: Finally got a whammy bar - jtees4 - 9-:23 -0-09-20
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:50:00 +0800, Greendistantstar
<Greendistantstar@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>jtees4 wrote:
>
>>
>> I have tried, really tried to love Starts over the years. I have
>> probably bought and eventually sold at least five of them. It's like,
>> I feel something is wrong with me that I just can't bond with the most
>> popular guitar in the world...but I've come to the conclusion that
>> they just are not for me. I'm generally a Gibson guy, but I also have
>> liked many other brands. I don't know what's wrong with me.
>
>All my early guitars as a teenager were Gibson or Gibson copies, I
>couldn't stand Strats. Eventually, the tones I liked most I couldn't get
>with any Gibson, but with Strats I could.
>
>Over the years, my tastes have become more eclectic, and I've come to
>accept that each has it's own pros and cons. No matter how hard I try, I
>can't get, say, a Larry Carlton-like tone with a Strat, so I don't
>bother, and same if I want a crisp, twang tone, the LP gets put aside.
>
>Trying to make one sound like the other is a compromise IMHO.
>
>The only real difference is neck stability. Gibson's set necks DO have
>issues that you simply don't (or rarely) get with bolt-ons.
>
>I know it's a controversial subject, just my 2c worth :)
>
>GDS
>
>"Let's roll!"
I agree...I am no Strat basher. That's why I always felt I HAD to have
a Strat. I just didn't get along with them for some reason.
--
WE'RE BAAAACK:
http://www.Gearforumz.com
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=789610
http://www.Reviewmymusicnow.com
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Re: Finally got a whammy bar - Greendistantstar - 9-:23 -0-09-20
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jtees4 wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:50:00 +0800, Greendistantstar
> <Greendistantstar@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>> jtees4 wrote:
>>
>>> I have tried, really tried to love Starts over the years. I have
>>> probably bought and eventually sold at least five of them. It's like,
>>> I feel something is wrong with me that I just can't bond with the most
>>> popular guitar in the world...but I've come to the conclusion that
>>> they just are not for me. I'm generally a Gibson guy, but I also have
>>> liked many other brands. I don't know what's wrong with me.
>> All my early guitars as a teenager were Gibson or Gibson copies, I
>> couldn't stand Strats. Eventually, the tones I liked most I couldn't get
>> with any Gibson, but with Strats I could.
>>
>> Over the years, my tastes have become more eclectic, and I've come to
>> accept that each has it's own pros and cons. No matter how hard I try, I
>> can't get, say, a Larry Carlton-like tone with a Strat, so I don't
>> bother, and same if I want a crisp, twang tone, the LP gets put aside.
>>
>> Trying to make one sound like the other is a compromise IMHO.
>>
>> The only real difference is neck stability. Gibson's set necks DO have
>> issues that you simply don't (or rarely) get with bolt-ons.
>>
>> I know it's a controversial subject, just my 2c worth :)
>>
>> GDS
>>
>> "Let's roll!"
>
> I agree...I am no Strat basher. That's why I always felt I HAD to have
> a Strat. I just didn't get along with them for some reason.
You have to work a Strat more IMO. I find myself sorta whizzing around
with Gibson necks (esp SGs). But when I want CRUNCH Gibson takes it.
<sigh>
It's a bit like "Do you prefer blondes, brunettes or redheads?" ;>)
GDS
"Let's roll!"
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Re: Finally got a whammy bar - jimmy - 9-:23 -0-09-20
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:52:22 -0500, "Stephen Cowell"
<stephenleeNOSPAMcowell@gmail.com> wrote:
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>"Lu R" <whome@hotmail.com> wrote
>> If you stretch the string by playing it goes higher not lower.
>
>If you push on the neck the note goes lower.
>__
>Steve
What's your opinion on that Steve, in terms of negative effect on a
guitar? I do it sometimes but my lead guy told me to never do it with
his new mia strat. I personally think a guitar should be tough enough
to stand a little bend of the neck.
tony
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Re: Finally got a whammy bar - jimmy - 9-:23 -0-09-20
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:15:12 +0800, Greendistantstar
<Greendistantstar@iinet.net.au> wrote:
.....
> "Do you prefer blondes, brunettes or redheads?" ;>)
>
Yes!!!
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Re: Finally got a whammy bar - jtees4 - 9-:23 -0-09-20
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:15:12 +0800, Greendistantstar
<Greendistantstar@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>jtees4 wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:50:00 +0800, Greendistantstar
>> <Greendistantstar@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>> jtees4 wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have tried, really tried to love Starts over the years. I have
>>>> probably bought and eventually sold at least five of them. It's like,
>>>> I feel something is wrong with me that I just can't bond with the most
>>>> popular guitar in the world...but I've come to the conclusion that
>>>> they just are not for me. I'm generally a Gibson guy, but I also have
>>>> liked many other brands. I don't know what's wrong with me.
>>> All my early guitars as a teenager were Gibson or Gibson copies, I
>>> couldn't stand Strats. Eventually, the tones I liked most I couldn't get
>>> with any Gibson, but with Strats I could.
>>>
>>> Over the years, my tastes have become more eclectic, and I've come to
>>> accept that each has it's own pros and cons. No matter how hard I try, I
>>> can't get, say, a Larry Carlton-like tone with a Strat, so I don't
>>> bother, and same if I want a crisp, twang tone, the LP gets put aside.
>>>
>>> Trying to make one sound like the other is a compromise IMHO.
>>>
>>> The only real difference is neck stability. Gibson's set necks DO have
>>> issues that you simply don't (or rarely) get with bolt-ons.
>>>
>>> I know it's a controversial subject, just my 2c worth :)
>>>
>>> GDS
>>>
>>> "Let's roll!"
>>
>> I agree...I am no Strat basher. That's why I always felt I HAD to have
>> a Strat. I just didn't get along with them for some reason.
>
>You have to work a Strat more IMO. I find myself sorta whizzing around
>with Gibson necks (esp SGs). But when I want CRUNCH Gibson takes it.
>
><sigh>
>
>It's a bit like "Do you prefer blondes, brunettes or redheads?" ;>)
>
>GDS
>
>"Let's roll!"
I failed to mention that I do like Teles though.
--
WE'RE BAAAACK:
http://www.Gearforumz.com
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=789610
http://www.Reviewmymusicnow.com
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Re: Finally got a whammy bar - Lu R - 9-:23 -0-09-20
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"Greendistantstar" <Greendistantstar@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:4aba35e2$0$12705$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Lu R wrote:
>> "jimmy" <bigtoehere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ba9kb59j7enb612d7lquk0gucmpkusglq3@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:13:42 +1000, "Lu R" <whome@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Mark Bedingfield" <atari030@nomorespampleaseoptusnet.com.au> wrote in
>>>> message news:4ab98f6e$0$5422$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>> Rufus wrote:
>>>>>> Lu R wrote:
>>>>>>> My 2nd guitar is a Riviera strat copy which was given to me by a
>>>>>>> friend
>>>>>>> some years ago. I finally got it a bar and have found it to be a
>>>>>>> wonderful way to be creative. Why all electric guitars dont have
>>>>>>> whammies is just crazy. The additional tones available are truly
>>>>>>> worth
>>>>>>> it. Im a Gibson man myself but I can see why so many turn to Strats.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...I'm a Gibson man that recently bought a Deluxe Strat and I haven't
>>>>>> got
>>>>>> a clue what to do with a whammy...it just gets in my way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I still prefer a Les Paul to ANYTHING! (I have three...so
>>>>>> far...)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Shakes head.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh Rufus. LP's better than Strats? Nah. Not in my world ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I never used my trem for years and still tend to use left hand vibrato
>>>>> but
>>>>> I've been working on using it. Why not? Its there for a reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have 3 Strats...so far.... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Lu, check out anything by David Gilmour, he rarely uses any left hand
>>>>> vibrato and mostly uses the trem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>> Mark, Dave is probably my most favoured guitarist ever. The thing that
>>>> a
>>>> whammy can do that the left hand cant do is LOWER the note..:)
>>>>
>>> Not so sure about that.
>>>
>>> tony
>>
>> If you stretch the string by playing it goes higher not lower.
>
> But if you bend the string first and then release, the pitch drops, does
> it not?
>
> GDS
>
> "Let's roll!"
Yes it does but it doesnt drop to BELOW its standard tuning. A whammy will
take it lower.
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Re: Finally got a whammy bar - boardjunkie - 9-:23 -0-09-20
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On Sep 23, 10:48=A0am, "Lu R" <wh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "jimmy" <bigtoeh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:ba9kb59j7enb612d7lquk0gucmpkusglq3@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:13:42 +1000, "Lu R" <wh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>"Mark Bedingfield" <atari...@nomorespampleaseoptusnet.com.au> wrote in
> >>messagenews:4ab98f6e$0$5422$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> >>> Rufus wrote:
> >>>> Lu R wrote:
> >>>>> My 2nd guitar is a Riviera strat copy which was given to me by a
> >>>>> friend
> >>>>> some years ago. I finally got it a bar and have found it to be a
> >>>>> wonderful way to be creative. Why all electric guitars dont have
> >>>>> whammies is just crazy. The additional tones available are truly wo=
rth
> >>>>> it. Im a Gibson man myself but I can see why so many turn to Strats=
.
>
> >>>> ...I'm a Gibson man that recently bought a Deluxe Strat and I haven'=
t
> >>>> got
> >>>> a clue what to do with a whammy...it just gets in my way.
>
> >>>> And I still prefer a Les Paul to ANYTHING! =A0(I have three...so far=
...)
>
> >>> Shakes head.....
>
> >>> Oh Rufus. LP's better than Strats? Nah. Not in my world ;-)
>
> >>> I never used my trem for years and still tend to use left hand vibrat=
o
> >>> but
> >>> I've been working on using it. Why not? Its there for a reason.
>
> >>> I have 3 Strats...so far.... ;-)
>
> >>> Lu, check out anything by David Gilmour, he rarely uses any left hand
> >>> vibrato and mostly uses the trem.
>
> >>> Mark
>
> >>Mark, Dave is probably my most favoured guitarist ever. The thing that =
a
> >>whammy can do that the left hand cant do is LOWER the note..:)
>
> > Not so sure about that.
>
> > tony
>
> If you stretch the string by playing it goes higher not lower.- Hide quot=
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You can do the same thing by fretting a lower note that's bent up to
the note you want and lower it from there. I do it often.
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