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Guitar Discussions -> Michael Jackson dead at 50
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Michael Jackson dead at 50 - Renli - 6-:25 -0-09-20
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I didn't have the best family but I didn't have the worst family
either, I suppose. I have a lot of memories of how listening to
Michael Jackson's music brought my family together. When my father
bought the newly-released thriller album and we listened to it. My
mother didn't like a lot of "rock-n-roll" music, but she approved of
Michael Jackson. I did too, it was good music.
I've always looked at "stars" from an arm's length perspective. I
don't try to understand them or know them or try to get them to notice
me. I leave them alone. I only say I know their music, which
generally, is a pretty obvious statement, but it's the truth. We
simply *don't know* what Michael Jackson thought or wanted in his
life.
So upon hearing news of his passing, the only thing I could think of
was all the happy memories I had with my family and the beauty of his
music. Thank you Michael Jackson!
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50 - Les Cargill - 6-:25 -0-09-20
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Renli wrote:
> I didn't have the best family but I didn't have the worst family
> either, I suppose. I have a lot of memories of how listening to
> Michael Jackson's music brought my family together. When my father
> bought the newly-released thriller album and we listened to it. My
> mother didn't like a lot of "rock-n-roll" music, but she approved of
> Michael Jackson. I did too, it was good music.
>
> I've always looked at "stars" from an arm's length perspective. I
> don't try to understand them or know them or try to get them to notice
> me. I leave them alone. I only say I know their music, which
> generally, is a pretty obvious statement, but it's the truth. We
> simply *don't know* what Michael Jackson thought or wanted in his
> life.
>
> So upon hearing news of his passing, the only thing I could think of
> was all the happy memories I had with my family and the beauty of his
> music. Thank you Michael Jackson!
>
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When I look at Micheal Jackson's life, I see a man who was used up by
the American obsession with youth culture, an extraordinarily talented
man who was wasted by it. Maybe he was a prodigy, the sort than
never really recover from the transition to adulthood. I don't know.
The closest thing to a direct peer that he has is Donnie Osmond, who
through the strength of family and good sense (or just good luck) did
not find that level of limelight after his moment had passed.
I did not think much of his work after "Off The Wall", although
the Quincy Jones arrangements were top flight. But as the lead
singer of the Jackson 5, he was superb.
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Les Cargill
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50 - Learnwell - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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> mother didn't like a lot of "rock-n-roll" music,
Michael Jackson did not do rock and roll.
I have become fascinated as to how he is being remembered for doing
such.
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50 - WeReo_ScoTTy - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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"Renli" <oliver.richman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4ac287a4-8427-4de9-9c3a-19c152941787@y33g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>I didn't have the best family but I didn't have the worst family
> either, I suppose. I have a lot of memories of how listening to
> Michael Jackson's music brought my family together. When my father
> bought the newly-released thriller album and we listened to it. My
> mother didn't like a lot of "rock-n-roll" music, but she approved of
> Michael Jackson. I did too, it was good music.
>
> I've always looked at "stars" from an arm's length perspective. I
> don't try to understand them or know them or try to get them to notice
> me. I leave them alone. I only say I know their music, which
> generally, is a pretty obvious statement, but it's the truth. We
> simply *don't know* what Michael Jackson thought or wanted in his
> life.
>
> So upon hearing news of his passing, the only thing I could think of
> was all the happy memories I had with my family and the beauty of his
> music. Thank you Michael Jackson!
>
> -
I hear you. I'm glad you had some family improvement. I could've used some
myself.
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50 - dugjustdug - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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Les added:
>The closest thing to a direct peer that he has is Donnie Osmond, who
>through the strength of family and good sense (or just good luck) did
>not find that level of limelight after his moment had passed.
Les:
I reeeealy like the opinions you place here - they're great, but, I
think the MJ v.DO is not an appropriate comparison. Donnie was a
staged talent and Jackson - while also being pushed by his 'rents, was
a true talent. I was never a big fan of his, but, he had "it".
He also had what I think is intrinsic in many that share artistic
genious. That odd genome that causes them to be a tad bit skewed.
Add to it the gushing of celebrity followers of his day (as you
mentioned), and it's prefectly easy to understand why they get caught
up in the rush of the raging river. It's almost like the artist feels
they don't deserve it, and then come into the self-realised fact that
they're convinced they have superior traits in all areas other than
their true genious. Wolfgang Ammedeus is another example.
Sad, really. But, think of the music we would have missed if he had
decided to go into something other than his true pursuits.
I feel sorry for the guy. He made bad choices. And he didn't get
very good advice. Except that which came from Quincy.
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50 - Les Cargill - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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dugjustdug wrote:
> Les added:
>
>> The closest thing to a direct peer that he has is Donnie Osmond, who
>> through the strength of family and good sense (or just good luck) did
>> not find that level of limelight after his moment had passed.
>
> Les:
>
> I reeeealy like the opinions you place here - they're great, but, I
> think the MJ v.DO is not an appropriate comparison. Donnie was a
> staged talent
Hmmm.... well, I think he was part of The Osmonds, and you really
should look up some of the old barbershop they put together. That's
serious harmony.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duwklfM7Qg8
All the TV cruft was arfing silly. Seriously, I wish somebody
could have found a vehicle for them in which they could put *that*
sound on something more contemporary. They never really did.
> and Jackson - while also being pushed by his 'rents, was
> a true talent. I was never a big fan of his, but, he had "it".
>
Oh yeah. No question. But with who else could you compare/contrast?
> He also had what I think is intrinsic in many that share artistic
> genious. That odd genome that causes them to be a tad bit skewed.
> Add to it the gushing of celebrity followers of his day (as you
> mentioned), and it's prefectly easy to understand why they get caught
> up in the rush of the raging river. It's almost like the artist feels
> they don't deserve it, and then come into the self-realised fact that
> they're convinced they have superior traits in all areas other than
> their true genious.
Heh. I dunno about all that. Again, I never got Micheal's
solo stuff as even reasonably interesting pop. Sure, the
Quincy stuff was really good, but Micheal as a singer and
all... meh. The Motown stuff was awesome because that's a
way better formula.
MTV was a hype machine. Now here's Knopfler and Sting to
explain it...
> Wolfgang Ammedeus is another example.
>
10,000 hours plus hype.
> Sad, really. But, think of the music we would have missed if he had
> decided to go into something other than his true pursuits.
>
>
> I feel sorry for the guy. He made bad choices. And he didn't get
> very good advice. Except that which came from Quincy.
I still kinda hate youth culture and I always have. Old
guys rule.
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Les Cargill
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50 - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22*=7C=7C=5C=5CM=5C=5C=AE/M/=7C=7C*_=22?= - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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Learnwell wrote:
>> mother didn't like a lot of "rock-n-roll" music,
>
> Michael Jackson did not do rock and roll.
>
> I have become fascinated as to how he is being remembered for doing
> such.
>
That's true.
The media is a joke and the public is an even bigger joke.
M. Jackson was a hell of a great dancing singer, that's all.
The music industry is a vomitorium from Beyonce to Jackson, Madonna to
Sinatra.
These people weren't musicians, but only those who play instruments know
that. The vast majority of waddling mouth breathers can't change truth
into falsehood.
Just smile and play. :-) M
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50 - Twibil - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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On Jun 25, 9:10=A0pm, Learnwell <learnwel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > mother didn't like a lot of "rock-n-roll" music,
>
> Michael Jackson did not do rock and roll.
Yes, he knows. That's why he put quotes around "rock-n-roll".
> I have become fascinated as to how he is being remembered for doing
> such.
Not so's you could notice. Every single report I've seen so far has
memorialised him as having been "The King Of Pop", which he *was* for
a while.
Not "rock"; "pop".
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50 - Appledog - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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On Jun 26, 2:07=A0pm, Twibil <nowayjo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 25, 9:10=A0pm, Learnwell <learnwel...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > mother didn't like a lot of "rock-n-roll" music,
>
> > Michael Jackson did not do rock and roll.
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> Yes, he knows. That's why he put quotes around "rock-n-roll".
More to the point, I was actually insinuating that Michael Jackson did
not do rock and roll music. I have no idea how Learnwell thought I
said he did.
> Not "rock"; "pop".
Yep.
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50 - Mark Bedingfield - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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Billy Brit wrote:
> Renli wrote:
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>> So upon hearing news of his passing, the only thing I could think of
>> was all the happy memories I had with my family and the beauty of his
>> music. Thank you Michael Jackson!
>
> It's amazing how people forget things as soon as someone dies. Michael
> Jackson was a paedophile! It's a good thing that he's dead because he
> can't get near any more children. All you people saying nice things
> about him should be ashamed of yourselves. What kind of people are you?
You knew him personally then?
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