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Problems with Tone while playing Hideaway - Renli - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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Hi! So I'm learning Hideaway, and I'm working over the tabs.. and a
certain concern of mine is starting to nag more and more.
Ok so initially you play above the 9th fret area, but then you
transpose down to the open strings and 2nd-3rd-4th fret area. However
when I do this the timbre of my guitar, a Gibson SG, totally changes.
I don't mean a little bit, it's huge. When I listen to the beano
version, I can barely detect any change (there almost seems to be no
change in the timbre of Mr. Clapton's Les Paul). Ok so i've tried
altering my touch in certain ways and where I play (closer to the
bridge or closer to the neck) what pickups I have, and with the levels
of distortion. Currently I don't think that it is as much an issue of
my playing as it is with the gear; it's quite obvious, notes played
around the 9th-12th frets sound differently than notes played on open
strings. Ok so that much is obvious.
So would an effects pedal help mask this? If it's really true that
Clapton played it the way it's in the tabs, the only thing I can think
of is:
a) The Les Paul is such a radically different guitar than the SG that
notes played on open strings are nearly indistinguishable from notes
played higher up near the 9th-12th frets;
b) Overdrive, Treble Boost, or other amp qualities/effects pedals are
equalizing his tone;
c) There's something wrong with my guitar.
I'm willing to entertain that I can make it sound better if I had more
experience, but it is clearly not as much as half of the problem I am
experiencing.
So far I've been figuring out how to play the open strings part up at
the 9th fret and it sounds great. When I play near the open strings it
loses that nice overdrive sound I hear on the beano album.
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Re: Problems with Tone while playing Hideaway - Mr. Green - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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On 26 June, 08:17, Renli <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi! So I'm learning Hideaway, and I'm working over the tabs.. and a
> certain concern of mine is starting to nag more and more.
>
> Ok so initially you play above the 9th fret area, but then you
> transpose down to the open strings and 2nd-3rd-4th fret area. However
> when I do this the timbre of my guitar, a Gibson SG, totally changes.
> I don't mean a little bit, it's huge. When I listen to the beano
> version, I can barely detect any change (there almost seems to be no
> change in the timbre of Mr. Clapton's Les Paul). Ok so i've tried
> altering my touch in certain ways and where I play (closer to the
> bridge or closer to the neck) what pickups I have, and with the levels
> of distortion. Currently I don't think that it is as much an issue of
> my playing as it is with the gear; it's quite obvious, notes played
> around the 9th-12th frets sound differently than notes played on open
> strings. Ok so that much is obvious.
>
> So would an effects pedal help mask this? If it's really true that
> Clapton played it the way it's in the tabs, the only thing I can think
> of is:
>
> a) The Les Paul is such a radically different guitar than the SG that
> notes played on open strings are nearly indistinguishable from notes
> played higher up near the 9th-12th frets;
> b) Overdrive, Treble Boost, or other amp qualities/effects pedals are
> equalizing his tone;
> c) There's something wrong with my guitar.
>
> I'm willing to entertain that I can make it sound better if I had more
> experience, but it is clearly not as much as half of the problem I am
> experiencing.
>
> So far I've been figuring out how to play the open strings part up at
> the 9th fret and it sounds great. When I play near the open strings it
> loses that nice overdrive sound I hear on the beano album.
>
> -
Hi
There are a few versions of Hideaway on youtube. It may be worth
seeing what others are doing.
As for gear, Claptons just playing a Les Paul into an amp that's
basically a JTM45 in a 2 x 12" cab. You have a guitar with the same
scale length and similar pickups. Early Marshall's, like the
Bluesbreaker Combo, were closer in desigh to the Fender Bassman but
with different speakers and eventually, different power tubes. If your
using a modern high gain amp or an OD pedal, it's likely you have a
more distorted/compressed tone with less clarity.
I think your doing the right thing in looking for a position on the
fretboard which gives you the tone your looking for. Have you
considered, the further up the fretboard you play (between frets 1 and
12), the closer your pickups get to the centre of the string length.
This mean your tone gets smoother and more forgiving ;-)
Green
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Re: Problems with Tone while playing Hideaway - Appledog - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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On Jun 26, 6:19=A0pm, "Mr. Green"
<cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk> wrote:
> On 26 June, 08:17, Renli <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi! So I'm learning Hideaway, and I'm working over the tabs.. and a
> > certain concern of mine is starting to nag more and more.
>
> > Ok so initially you play above the 9th fret area, but then you
> > transpose down to the open strings and 2nd-3rd-4th fret area. However
> > when I do this the timbre of my guitar, a Gibson SG, totally changes.
> > I don't mean a little bit, it's huge. When I listen to the beano
> > version, I can barely detect any change (there almost seems to be no
> > change in the timbre of Mr. Clapton's Les Paul). Ok so i've tried
> > altering my touch in certain ways and where I play (closer to the
> > bridge or closer to the neck) what pickups I have, and with the levels
> > of distortion. Currently I don't think that it is as much an issue of
> > my playing as it is with the gear; it's quite obvious, notes played
> > around the 9th-12th frets sound differently than notes played on open
> > strings. Ok so that much is obvious.
>
> > So would an effects pedal help mask this? If it's really true that
> > Clapton played it the way it's in the tabs, the only thing I can think
> > of is:
>
> > a) The Les Paul is such a radically different guitar than the SG that
> > notes played on open strings are nearly indistinguishable from notes
> > played higher up near the 9th-12th frets;
> > b) Overdrive, Treble Boost, or other amp qualities/effects pedals are
> > equalizing his tone;
> > c) There's something wrong with my guitar.
>
> > I'm willing to entertain that I can make it sound better if I had more
> > experience, but it is clearly not as much as half of the problem I am
> > experiencing.
>
> > So far I've been figuring out how to play the open strings part up at
> > the 9th fret and it sounds great. When I play near the open strings it
> > loses that nice overdrive sound I hear on the beano album.
>
> > -
>
> Hi
>
> There are a few versions of Hideaway on youtube. It may be worth
> seeing what others are doing.
>
> As for gear, Claptons just playing a Les Paul into an amp that's
> basically a JTM45 in a 2 x 12" cab. You have a guitar with the same
> scale length and similar pickups. Early Marshall's, like the
> Bluesbreaker Combo, were closer in desigh to the Fender Bassman but
> with different speakers and eventually, different power tubes. If your
> using a modern high gain amp or an OD pedal, it's likely you have a
> more distorted/compressed tone with less clarity.
>
> I think your doing the right thing in looking for a position on the
> fretboard which gives you the tone your looking for. Have you
> considered, the further up the fretboard you play (between frets 1 and
> 12), =A0the closer your pickups get to the centre of the string length.
> This mean your tone gets smoother and more forgiving ;-)
>
> Green
This lady is experiencing the same problem as I am:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYeDSI71YDPU
except that it would seem not as bad as my version of the problem;
listen to her tone when she plays closer to the open strings; now
consider that my verison of this problem is two or three times worse.
Now, consider this gentleman's version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DT-aquBKTxW0
he does NOT have the problem I or that lady have. At 0:16 when he
plays on open strings it sounds nearly exactly the same as at the 9th
fret.. :/
Please don't tell me I need to play this on a Les Paul or retranscribe
it all to the middle of the neck :)
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Re: Problems with Tone while playing Hideaway - GreenDistantStar - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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On Jun 26, 9:12=A0pm, Appledog <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 26, 6:19=A0pm, "Mr. Green"
>
>
>
> <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 26 June, 08:17, Renli <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi! So I'm learning Hideaway, and I'm working over the tabs.. and a
> > > certain concern of mine is starting to nag more and more.
>
> > > Ok so initially you play above the 9th fret area, but then you
> > > transpose down to the open strings and 2nd-3rd-4th fret area. However
> > > when I do this the timbre of my guitar, a Gibson SG, totally changes.
> > > I don't mean a little bit, it's huge. When I listen to the beano
> > > version, I can barely detect any change (there almost seems to be no
> > > change in the timbre of Mr. Clapton's Les Paul). Ok so i've tried
> > > altering my touch in certain ways and where I play (closer to the
> > > bridge or closer to the neck) what pickups I have, and with the level=
s
> > > of distortion. Currently I don't think that it is as much an issue of
> > > my playing as it is with the gear; it's quite obvious, notes played
> > > around the 9th-12th frets sound differently than notes played on open
> > > strings. Ok so that much is obvious.
>
> > > So would an effects pedal help mask this? If it's really true that
> > > Clapton played it the way it's in the tabs, the only thing I can thin=
k
> > > of is:
>
> > > a) The Les Paul is such a radically different guitar than the SG that
> > > notes played on open strings are nearly indistinguishable from notes
> > > played higher up near the 9th-12th frets;
> > > b) Overdrive, Treble Boost, or other amp qualities/effects pedals are
> > > equalizing his tone;
> > > c) There's something wrong with my guitar.
>
> > > I'm willing to entertain that I can make it sound better if I had mor=
e
> > > experience, but it is clearly not as much as half of the problem I am
> > > experiencing.
>
> > > So far I've been figuring out how to play the open strings part up at
> > > the 9th fret and it sounds great. When I play near the open strings i=
t
> > > loses that nice overdrive sound I hear on the beano album.
>
> > > -
>
> > Hi
>
> > There are a few versions of Hideaway on youtube. It may be worth
> > seeing what others are doing.
>
> > As for gear, Claptons just playing a Les Paul into an amp that's
> > basically a JTM45 in a 2 x 12" cab. You have a guitar with the same
> > scale length and similar pickups. Early Marshall's, like the
> > Bluesbreaker Combo, were closer in desigh to the Fender Bassman but
> > with different speakers and eventually, different power tubes. If your
> > using a modern high gain amp or an OD pedal, it's likely you have a
> > more distorted/compressed tone with less clarity.
>
> > I think your doing the right thing in looking for a position on the
> > fretboard which gives you the tone your looking for. Have you
> > considered, the further up the fretboard you play (between frets 1 and
> > 12), =A0the closer your pickups get to the centre of the string length.
> > This mean your tone gets smoother and more forgiving ;-)
>
> > Green
>
> This lady is experiencing the same problem as I am:http://www.youtube.com=
/watch?v=3DYeDSI71YDPU
>
> except that it would seem not as bad as my version of the problem;
> listen to her tone when she plays closer to the open strings; now
> consider that my verison of this problem is two or three times worse.
>
> Now, consider this gentleman's version:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DT=
-aquBKTxW0
>
> he does NOT have the problem I or that lady have. At 0:16 when he
> plays on open strings it sounds nearly exactly the same as at the 9th
> fret.. :/
>
> Please don't tell me I need to play this on a Les Paul or retranscribe
> it all to the middle of the neck :)
There are no problems with any of your gear.
GDS
"Let's roll!"
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Re: Problems with Tone while playing Hideaway - Mr. Green - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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On 26 June, 14:12, Appledog <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 26, 6:19=A0pm, "Mr. Green"
>
>
>
>
>
> <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 26 June, 08:17, Renli <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi! So I'm learning Hideaway, and I'm working over the tabs.. and a
> > > certain concern of mine is starting to nag more and more.
>
> > > Ok so initially you play above the 9th fret area, but then you
> > > transpose down to the open strings and 2nd-3rd-4th fret area. However
> > > when I do this the timbre of my guitar, a Gibson SG, totally changes.
> > > I don't mean a little bit, it's huge. When I listen to the beano
> > > version, I can barely detect any change (there almost seems to be no
> > > change in the timbre of Mr. Clapton's Les Paul). Ok so i've tried
> > > altering my touch in certain ways and where I play (closer to the
> > > bridge or closer to the neck) what pickups I have, and with the level=
s
> > > of distortion. Currently I don't think that it is as much an issue of
> > > my playing as it is with the gear; it's quite obvious, notes played
> > > around the 9th-12th frets sound differently than notes played on open
> > > strings. Ok so that much is obvious.
>
> > > So would an effects pedal help mask this? If it's really true that
> > > Clapton played it the way it's in the tabs, the only thing I can thin=
k
> > > of is:
>
> > > a) The Les Paul is such a radically different guitar than the SG that
> > > notes played on open strings are nearly indistinguishable from notes
> > > played higher up near the 9th-12th frets;
> > > b) Overdrive, Treble Boost, or other amp qualities/effects pedals are
> > > equalizing his tone;
> > > c) There's something wrong with my guitar.
>
> > > I'm willing to entertain that I can make it sound better if I had mor=
e
> > > experience, but it is clearly not as much as half of the problem I am
> > > experiencing.
>
> > > So far I've been figuring out how to play the open strings part up at
> > > the 9th fret and it sounds great. When I play near the open strings i=
t
> > > loses that nice overdrive sound I hear on the beano album.
>
> > > -
>
> > Hi
>
> > There are a few versions of Hideaway on youtube. It may be worth
> > seeing what others are doing.
>
> > As for gear, Claptons just playing a Les Paul into an amp that's
> > basically a JTM45 in a 2 x 12" cab. You have a guitar with the same
> > scale length and similar pickups. Early Marshall's, like the
> > Bluesbreaker Combo, were closer in desigh to the Fender Bassman but
> > with different speakers and eventually, different power tubes. If your
> > using a modern high gain amp or an OD pedal, it's likely you have a
> > more distorted/compressed tone with less clarity.
>
> > I think your doing the right thing in looking for a position on the
> > fretboard which gives you the tone your looking for. Have you
> > considered, the further up the fretboard you play (between frets 1 and
> > 12), =A0the closer your pickups get to the centre of the string length.
> > This mean your tone gets smoother and more forgiving ;-)
>
> > Green
>
> This lady is experiencing the same problem as I am:http://www.youtube.com=
/watch?v=3DYeDSI71YDPU
>
> except that it would seem not as bad as my version of the problem;
> listen to her tone when she plays closer to the open strings; now
> consider that my verison of this problem is two or three times worse.
>
> Now, consider this gentleman's version:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DT=
-aquBKTxW0
>
> he does NOT have the problem I or that lady have. At 0:16 when he
> plays on open strings it sounds nearly exactly the same as at the 9th
> fret.. :/
>
> Please don't tell me I need to play this on a Les Paul or retranscribe
> it all to the middle of the neck :)
>
> -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'd be happy to play Hideaway as well as the young lady with the strat
but, I can hear what you are talking about. The strat played through a
small 15 watt amp displays it most.
IMO what we have hear is the contrast in tone between the plain and
wound strings, added to by the change in playing postion. The strat
and the small amp shows it most because they emphasis the higher
frequencies more. IMO you need to loose some of the very high
frequencies. If you've got one, turn down the presence knob.
Otherwise, try turning down the guitar, pedal or amps tone control. If
none of the above works, buy a Les Paul and an original Bluesbreaker
combo ;-)
Another suggestion, try a thicker pick or one made of a different
material.
Green
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Re: Problems with Tone while playing Hideaway - Appledog - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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On Jun 26, 9:48=A0pm, "Mr. Green"
<cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk> wrote:
> On 26 June, 14:12, Appledog <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 26, 6:19=A0pm, "Mr. Green"
>
> > <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk> wrote:
> > > On 26 June, 08:17, Renli <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi! So I'm learning Hideaway, and I'm working over the tabs.. and a
> > > > certain concern of mine is starting to nag more and more.
>
> > > > Ok so initially you play above the 9th fret area, but then you
> > > > transpose down to the open strings and 2nd-3rd-4th fret area. Howev=
er
> > > > when I do this the timbre of my guitar, a Gibson SG, totally change=
s.
> > > > I don't mean a little bit, it's huge. When I listen to the beano
> > > > version, I can barely detect any change (there almost seems to be n=
o
> > > > change in the timbre of Mr. Clapton's Les Paul). Ok so i've tried
> > > > altering my touch in certain ways and where I play (closer to the
> > > > bridge or closer to the neck) what pickups I have, and with the lev=
els
> > > > of distortion. Currently I don't think that it is as much an issue =
of
> > > > my playing as it is with the gear; it's quite obvious, notes played
> > > > around the 9th-12th frets sound differently than notes played on op=
en
> > > > strings. Ok so that much is obvious.
>
> > > > So would an effects pedal help mask this? If it's really true that
> > > > Clapton played it the way it's in the tabs, the only thing I can th=
ink
> > > > of is:
>
> > > > a) The Les Paul is such a radically different guitar than the SG th=
at
> > > > notes played on open strings are nearly indistinguishable from note=
s
> > > > played higher up near the 9th-12th frets;
> > > > b) Overdrive, Treble Boost, or other amp qualities/effects pedals a=
re
> > > > equalizing his tone;
> > > > c) There's something wrong with my guitar.
>
> > > > I'm willing to entertain that I can make it sound better if I had m=
ore
> > > > experience, but it is clearly not as much as half of the problem I =
am
> > > > experiencing.
>
> > > > So far I've been figuring out how to play the open strings part up =
at
> > > > the 9th fret and it sounds great. When I play near the open strings=
it
> > > > loses that nice overdrive sound I hear on the beano album.
>
> > > > -
>
> > > Hi
>
> > > There are a few versions of Hideaway on youtube. It may be worth
> > > seeing what others are doing.
>
> > > As for gear, Claptons just playing a Les Paul into an amp that's
> > > basically a JTM45 in a 2 x 12" cab. You have a guitar with the same
> > > scale length and similar pickups. Early Marshall's, like the
> > > Bluesbreaker Combo, were closer in desigh to the Fender Bassman but
> > > with different speakers and eventually, different power tubes. If you=
r
> > > using a modern high gain amp or an OD pedal, it's likely you have a
> > > more distorted/compressed tone with less clarity.
>
> > > I think your doing the right thing in looking for a position on the
> > > fretboard which gives you the tone your looking for. Have you
> > > considered, the further up the fretboard you play (between frets 1 an=
d
> > > 12), =A0the closer your pickups get to the centre of the string lengt=
h.
> > > This mean your tone gets smoother and more forgiving ;-)
>
> > > Green
>
> > This lady is experiencing the same problem as I am:http://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3DYeDSI71YDPU
>
> > except that it would seem not as bad as my version of the problem;
> > listen to her tone when she plays closer to the open strings; now
> > consider that my verison of this problem is two or three times worse.
>
> > Now, consider this gentleman's version:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
=3DT-aquBKTxW0
>
> > he does NOT have the problem I or that lady have. At 0:16 when he
> > plays on open strings it sounds nearly exactly the same as at the 9th
> > fret.. :/
>
> > Please don't tell me I need to play this on a Les Paul or retranscribe
> > it all to the middle of the neck :)
>
> > -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I'd be happy to play Hideaway as well as the young lady with the strat
> but, I can hear what you are talking about. The strat played through a
> small 15 watt amp displays it most.
>
> IMO what we have hear is the contrast in tone between the plain and
> wound strings, added to by the change in playing postion. The strat
> and the small amp shows it most because they emphasis the higher
> frequencies more. IMO you need to loose some of the very high
> frequencies. If you've got one, turn down the presence knob.
> Otherwise, try turning down the guitar, pedal or amps tone control. If
> none of the above works, buy a Les Paul and an original Bluesbreaker
> combo ;-)
>
> Another suggestion, try a thicker pick or one made of a different
> material.
>
> Green
Thanks, that makes a lot of sense and I'll try it. For what it's worth
I had looked at the beano tone on a graphic equalizer/frequency
analyzer and the top end is very low. Turning down presence should, in
fact, do the trick if it is what you suggest.
(a few minutes later)
Yes, it helps a lot. That and fuzzing things up a bit with the
overdrive. I can still hear a difference, but it is far less than it
was before (still nowhere near Clapton's near-transparrent les paul
sound tho).
How wonderful :)
And, interestingly enough, it's that much closer to the beano tone
when I adjust it like that.
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Re: Problems with Tone while playing Hideaway - Stephen Cowell - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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"Appledog" <oliver.richman@gmail.com> wrote
> Please don't tell me I need to play this on a Les Paul or retranscribe
> it all to the middle of the neck :)
It's all in the fingers. You don't learn how to
make the sounds until you pay your dues.
You pay your dues by playing acoustic
guitar, preferably a shitty one, for years.
Good luck.
__
Steve
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Re: Problems with Tone while playing Hideaway - ed s - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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On Jun 26, 2:17=A0am, Renli <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi! So I'm learning Hideaway, and I'm working over the tabs.. and a
> certain concern of mine is starting to nag more and more.
>
> Ok so initially you play above the 9th fret area, but then you
> transpose down to the open strings and 2nd-3rd-4th fret area. However
> when I do this the timbre of my guitar, a Gibson SG, totally changes.
> I don't mean a little bit, it's huge. When I listen to the beano
> version, I can barely detect any change (there almost seems to be no
> change in the timbre of Mr. Clapton's Les Paul). Ok so i've tried
> altering my touch in certain ways and where I play (closer to the
> bridge or closer to the neck) what pickups I have, and with the levels
> of distortion. Currently I don't think that it is as much an issue of
> my playing as it is with the gear; it's quite obvious, notes played
> around the 9th-12th frets sound differently than notes played on open
> strings. Ok so that much is obvious.
>
> So would an effects pedal help mask this? If it's really true that
> Clapton played it the way it's in the tabs, the only thing I can think
> of is:
>
> a) The Les Paul is such a radically different guitar than the SG that
> notes played on open strings are nearly indistinguishable from notes
> played higher up near the 9th-12th frets;
> b) Overdrive, Treble Boost, or other amp qualities/effects pedals are
> equalizing his tone;
> c) There's something wrong with my guitar.
>
> I'm willing to entertain that I can make it sound better if I had more
> experience, but it is clearly not as much as half of the problem I am
> experiencing.
>
> So far I've been figuring out how to play the open strings part up at
> the 9th fret and it sounds great. When I play near the open strings it
> loses that nice overdrive sound I hear on the beano album.
>
> -
screw the tab ( its probably wrong) and your tone for now ( you ready
to record or something ?) - just learn it . and worry abvout it
later. e
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Re: Problems with Tone while playing Hideaway - Tony Done - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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"Renli" <oliver.richman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cb410ef6-8182-436f-af46-69e2e811eaff@v15g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> Hi! So I'm learning Hideaway, and I'm working over the tabs.. and a
> certain concern of mine is starting to nag more and more.
>
> Ok so initially you play above the 9th fret area, but then you
> transpose down to the open strings and 2nd-3rd-4th fret area. However
> when I do this the timbre of my guitar, a Gibson SG, totally changes.
> I don't mean a little bit, it's huge. When I listen to the beano
> version, I can barely detect any change (there almost seems to be no
> change in the timbre of Mr. Clapton's Les Paul). Ok so i've tried
> altering my touch in certain ways and where I play (closer to the
> bridge or closer to the neck) what pickups I have, and with the levels
> of distortion. Currently I don't think that it is as much an issue of
> my playing as it is with the gear; it's quite obvious, notes played
> around the 9th-12th frets sound differently than notes played on open
> strings. Ok so that much is obvious.
>
> So would an effects pedal help mask this? If it's really true that
> Clapton played it the way it's in the tabs, the only thing I can think
> of is:
>
> a) The Les Paul is such a radically different guitar than the SG that
> notes played on open strings are nearly indistinguishable from notes
> played higher up near the 9th-12th frets;
> b) Overdrive, Treble Boost, or other amp qualities/effects pedals are
> equalizing his tone;
> c) There's something wrong with my guitar.
>
> I'm willing to entertain that I can make it sound better if I had more
> experience, but it is clearly not as much as half of the problem I am
> experiencing.
>
> So far I've been figuring out how to play the open strings part up at
> the 9th fret and it sounds great. When I play near the open strings it
> loses that nice overdrive sound I hear on the beano album.
>
> -
I can think of a couple of things that have bugged me while trying to learn
electric, and having to deal with complex variation in tone and output:
High action and/or pickups means that the strings could be a lot closer to
the pickups when playing on the high frets than when playing low frets or
open strings.
The tone controls somewhere in the chain are set poorly
The amp is too close to a wall or the floor, so there are resonances and
feedback in the lower frequencies. When I complained of bass boom in my
Blues Deluxe, someone suggested putting it on a chair well away from a wall,
it made a big difference.
Tony D
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Re: Problems with Tone while playing Hideaway - Appledog - 6-:26 -0-09-20
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On Jun 26, 11:28=A0pm, "Stephen Cowell" <scow...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Appledog" <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > Please don't tell me I need to play this on a Les Paul or retranscribe
> > it all to the middle of the neck :)
>
> It's all in the fingers. =A0You don't learn how to
> make the sounds until you pay your dues.
> You pay your dues by playing acoustic
> guitar, preferably a shitty one, for years.
>
> Good luck.
Thanks. I've already mostly solved my problem - it was as Mr. Green
said; a combination of different factors such as the difference
between wound and unwound strings (I can't believe I didn't think of
that), where I picked, and yes, touch as well as you mention... so
thank you. I'd have to say overall though that rolling off the treble
was the primary culprit, I rolled off the tone, turned the top end
down on the amp and added some gain - and that pretty much solved the
problem. It's like camoflage, I can still tell it's being played near
the nut but it's significantly masked.
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